Would have never worked “as” a PE. Moreover, you are exposed to liability if
you stamp something.
From: Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 9:20 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC
I was in the same boat. They had a presentation for the EIT program (engineer
in training) which I guess you had to do if you wanted to sit for the PE exam
later after you got your work hour qualification. I kinda wish now I had done
it but I would have never worked for a PE. Like you I was all about RF in
college.
From: Cameron Crum
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 8:35 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC
Yeah, it's a stupid requirement s most EE PEs don't know jack about wireless
and probably less about fiber. I happen to know a couple guys who bothered to
get their PE, but I know I never did simply because there wasn't even a test
for what I do. They want you to take the power systems and control systems exam
if you are an RF guy. IT really is dumb and I think they are just trying to
weed out the smaller guys who will be forced into a financial hardship.
On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 4:53 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
The waiver should be made permanent. The quality of the data will not
suffer.
From: Cameron Crum
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 3:47 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC
Understood. We can work with very small providers. We aren't trying to put
anyone out of business. We do have some fixed costs like the PE unless you want
to self certify. I believe you qualify, or will at least for the waiver on the
next 3 filings.
Cameron
On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 4:36 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
Yes, but your solution is equivalent to my annual net profit as I am such a
new and small company. I am complaining to the FCC penury.
From: Cameron Crum
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 3:23 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC
We have a solution for filing with PE certification at
www.regulatorysolutions.us if you need assistance.
Cameron
On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 4:17 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
Not a new version but a whole new other report in addition to 477 I think.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 21, 2022, at 2:39 PM, Jason McKemie
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
I haven't been reading up on this, is this the new form 477 replacement
with increased requirements?
On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 2:51 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
wrote:
“Internet access”. If I am strictly a layer 2 pipe providing
transport - only then I am not a provider of internet. If someone
coincidentally connects it to layer 3 things... well then that is outside of my
control.
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 1:41 PM
To: Chuck McCown
Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC
>Facilities-based providers of fixed and mobile broadband internet
access who have one or more end user connections in service on June 30, 2022
On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 3:35 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:
But what types of business does it apply to? I am sure that I can
find a loophole. Like I deliver virtual ice cream via ethernet so it should
not apply to me.
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 12:47 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC
Ethernet/GPON doesn't matter. It's copper versus optical delivery.
:)
On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 11:21 AM Chuck McCown via AF
<af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
I wonder if I can get away with being an ethernet service
provider with free access to the internet thrown in...
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 8:33 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC
WISPA is absolutely fighting this. We absolutely did not want
this. There's way more opposition than WISPA has resources, but we still did
get some wins.
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 11:12 PM Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sure wispa is out there looking out for us
That is sarcasm
Wispa isnt what itwas when it lived in this neighborhood
I feel we all need to watch brokeback mountain to prepare
what's coming
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022, 6:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF
<af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
Perhaps. I am sure there will be things filed about this.
From: Brian Webster
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 4:46 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Cc: 'Chuck McCown'
Subject: RE: [AFMUG] BDC
Keep in mind that is a temp fix and only good for the next 18
months. Then the full PE cert is required.
Thank you,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck
McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 5:10 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: [AFMUG] BDC
Starting to look into what I have to do.
Just read the certification requirements. This is the
language of the alternate, non PE, non degreed engineer certifier:
(ii) specialized training relevant to broadband network
engineering and design, deployment, and/or performance, and at least ten years
of relevant experience in broadband network engineering, design, and/or
performance.
I am guessing everyone on this list fits this set of
qualifications.
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