That's a fairly narrow view, and arbitrarily binary.
I know a crap-load of "liberals" (and I don't know their political
affiliation) who are mathematicians, physicists, and engineers of
various types. Conversely, I know a bunch of locals with minimal
education who (based on their rhetoric) are right-wing conservatives and
eschew math, science, and such as "elite".
And where do the MAGA crowd fit in this survey? They are sort-of
conservative, but are they actually Republicans? Seems to me they are
mostly Just anti-government.
Further, based on (admittedly dated) statistical information that I've
seen, Republicans and Democrats (not accounting for whether they are
left, right, or center) account for less than 50% of the voting population.
If you want to lump everyone in one of two or three categories, you are
artificially limiting the conversation.
bp
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On 10/7/2022 3:00 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Liberal Democrats are separate from Moderate Democrats. So 100% for
each. Two separate categories of democrats.
To me, assuming this survey was taken from a representative cross
section and is as unbiased as any survey can be, confirms that my gut
feelings are about these issues.
If you go to college, study humanities, liberal arts etc , hug trees
and volunteer for “insert cause” you will probably find yourself on
the left side of this graphic and you may end up hating the folks on
the right because they tend to accumulate wealth and power.
Those folks on the right that frequently are in control of businesses
and paychecks. It is just the human condition.
If you do not value the study of math, science and government I would
think you may find it more difficult to find financial success in your
life. You likely will not be a business owner. And you might end up
hating your boss rather than being the boss.
*From:* Tim Hardy
*Sent:* Friday, October 7, 2022 3:47 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Political
So how come there’s 133% democrats in the racial column as an example.
On this question in particular, did they ensure the sample included
the same percentages of minorities in every category? Maybe they
explain all this, but I have better things to do with my time..
On Oct 7, 2022, at 4:45 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
I left out an important detail, that graphic was the “too little”
response.
Full article can be found in today’s Deseret News.
*From:*Chuck McCown via AF
*Sent:*Friday, October 7, 2022 1:00 PM
*To:*dmmoff...@gmail.com;'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Cc:*Chuck McCown
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Political
The question was as follows:
“Do you think schools today spend too much, the right amount or too
little time teaching about the following topics:”
I don’t consider that an ultra inflammatory question.
The source is as follows:
The American Family Survey 2022. It conducted online to a match
sample on gender, race, age and education Aug. 8-15, 2022. The
sample size is 3,000 and the overall margin of error is +- 1.9%.
There is an ultra liberal college up near Olympia Wa. Evergreen
State College. They actually have a faction that teaches that you
cannot trust science because it teaches concepts that are counter to
postmodernism. The extreme left has embraced a fiction that does not
stand up to scientific scrutiny. So the extreme left and the extreme
right both don’t trust science, but for different reasons.
So an ultra liberal might also say, we reject the science of
statistics and samples and surveys because they just make up
imaginary numbers... right<wlEmoticon-winkingsmile[1].png>‘'
In other words, if you don’t believe the results of a survey (or an
election, which really is also a survey) you just reject it out of
hand, don’t believe it, it is flawed... ???
*From:*dmmoff...@gmail.com
*Sent:*Friday, October 7, 2022 11:57 AM
*To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Cc:*'Chuck McCown'
*Subject:*RE: [AFMUG] OT Political
Interesting.
I would think nearly 99% of people would think “Math” and “Science”
should be taught in school, so there must be some kind of relative
ranking to come up with those percentages. I don’t believe for a
minute that only a bare majority of any political party thinks
science is important.
I’d also guess there was some colorful to the phrasing of the survey
questions. If they asked “Should students be taught to respect
people of all races” the percentages would be high across the board.
You’d have to phrase it in some inflammatory way to get that spread.
Anyway it’s cute, but I have questions about the methodology used to
come up with those numbers. I wonder if the methodology is “let’s
make up an imaginary number”.
-Adam
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>*On Behalf Of*Chuck McCown via AF
*Sent:*Friday, October 07, 2022 12:03 PM
*To:*af@af.afmug.com
*Cc:*Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
*Subject:*[AFMUG] OT Political
Been too quiet around here. Thought I would try to ignite another
brushfire.
This graphic explains America and what is wrong with it.
Asked of all Americans what is important to be taught at school.
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