3.33 per foot per year.  They have a temp 2.22 per foot rate they are so
graciously charging in the interim.


On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 12:57 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> $3.33 one time, or recurring?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2023 12:00 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW
>
>
>
> Baltimore City won't give you ROW access any sort of way.  They want you
> to pay $3.33 per foot to use their conduit system.  If you need new duct
> you need to build it, give it to them, and pay $3.33 per foot to use it. We
> were in the process of leveraging Title II to force them to give us access
> to run our own ducts under sidewalks when Title II got yanked back in
> 2017.  That's a big part of why we left WISPA. We just gave up on the idea
> and bought a company in FL and started running fiber.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 10:49 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yep, a larger town in my area wanted as much for the ROW access as it
> would cost to buy the fiber and conduit.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 7, 2023 9:33 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Cc:* syssup
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW
>
>
>
> Getting CLEC does *NOT* remove all confusion.
>
>
>
> In my case, a village has no permits (of any kind), no understanding of
> ROW, wanted to charge us rent to access the space, etc.
>
>
>
> In others' experience, I've heard DOT/county being extraordinarily
> difficult to work with to issue a permit.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 10:20 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] <
> j...@brazoswifi.com> wrote:
>
> We got setup as a CLEC to remove all confusion.  If you are planning on
> being in the fiber business, quit messing around and do it right.
>
> Jim Bouse
> Owner - Brazos WiFi
> 979-999-7000
> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Larry Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2023 9:03 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>; syssup <
> sys...@ecsis.net>
> Subject: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW
>
>
> Question for those more in tune than I.
>
> We are working (attempting) with our local electric company for access to
> their ROW for some of our fiber and they have stated that the rights
> granted ISP's under Title II (telecommunications provider) in 2015 was
> reversed in 2017 and then in 2018 ISP's were put back as "information"
> services removing any Title II rights and reverting them to Title I only.
> Escentially they are saying we have to be a LEC or CLEC to get access.
>
>   Anyone have a good answer for this ??
>
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