Yep, a larger town in my area wanted as much for the ROW access as it would 
cost to buy the fiber and conduit.  



From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2023 9:33 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: syssup 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW

Getting CLEC does *NOT* remove all confusion. 

In my case, a village has no permits (of any kind), no understanding of ROW, 
wanted to charge us rent to access the space, etc.

In others' experience, I've heard DOT/county being extraordinarily difficult to 
work with to issue a permit.

On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 10:20 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] <j...@brazoswifi.com> 
wrote:

  We got setup as a CLEC to remove all confusion.  If you are planning on being 
in the fiber business, quit messing around and do it right.

  Jim Bouse
  Owner - Brazos WiFi
  979-999-7000
  http://www.brazoswifi.com

  -----Original Message-----
  From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Larry Smith
  Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2023 9:03 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>; syssup 
<sys...@ecsis.net>
  Subject: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP access to ROW


  Question for those more in tune than I.

  We are working (attempting) with our local electric company for access to 
their ROW for some of our fiber and they have stated that the rights granted 
ISP's under Title II (telecommunications provider) in 2015 was reversed in 2017 
and then in 2018 ISP's were put back as "information" services removing any 
Title II rights and reverting them to Title I only.  Escentially they are 
saying we have to be a LEC or CLEC to get access.

    Anyone have a good answer for this ??

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  Larry Smith
  lesm...@ecsis.net

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