He gets arrested and killed by the police for being in the good
neighborhood... ( I said it before Steve did )
On 2/7/23 12:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
What about a black male teen in a good neighborhood?
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 3:07 PM Carl Peterson
<cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
Josh - has a lot more to do with who "you" are. Black male teen
is likely more like 1/5. 45yo white guy in a good neighborhood is
more likely to get ripped on conduit fees and taxes. I actually
live in MN now but my office is still in Baltimore.
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 1:43 PM Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
Isn't Baltimore known for its massive growth?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Baltimore
>The American city of Baltimore, Maryland, is notorious for
its crime rate, which ranks well above the national average.
>Your chance of being a victim of violent crime in Baltimore
is 1 in 64 and property crime is 1 in 33
Holy jesus that's way worse than what I had in mind.
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 2:12 PM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
I picked a pretty much random residential block in
Baltimore. 225ft long. 30 buildings (counting both sides
of the street). There are typically 1 or 2 mailboxes on
each building. If I assume 1.5 units per building then
there 45 passings (and it’s probably not that many in
reality).
If that $3.33/ft is per month ….then some back of the
napkin math tells me you’d pretty much have to hook up
every single house to make that worthwhile.
Which means this rule guarantees a monopoly in Baltimore
forever. Come on guys WTF.
*From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2023 1:57 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* RE: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP
access to ROW
$3.33 one time, or recurring?
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Carl
Peterson
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2023 12:00 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP
access to ROW
Baltimore City won't give you ROW access any sort of way.
They want you to pay $3.33 per foot to use their conduit
system. If you need new duct you need to build it, give
it to them, and pay $3.33 per foot to use it. We were in
the process of leveraging Title II to force them to give
us access to run our own ducts under sidewalks when Title
II got yanked back in 2017. That's a big part of why we
left WISPA. We just gave up on the idea and bought a
company in FL and started running fiber.
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 10:49 AM Chuck McCown via AF
<af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
Yep, a larger town in my area wanted as much for the
ROW access as it would cost to buy the fiber and conduit.
*From:*Josh Luthman
*Sent:*Tuesday, February 7, 2023 9:33 AM
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Cc:*syssup
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about
ISP access to ROW
Getting CLEC does *NOT* remove all confusion.
In my case, a village has no permits (of any kind), no
understanding of ROW, wanted to charge us rent to
access the space, etc.
In others' experience, I've heard DOT/county being
extraordinarily difficult to work with to issue a permit.
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 10:20 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos
WiFi] <j...@brazoswifi.com> wrote:
We got setup as a CLEC to remove all confusion.
If you are planning on being in the fiber
business, quit messing around and do it right.
Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
http://www.brazoswifi.com
-----Original Message-----
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of
Larry Smith
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2023 9:03 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
<af@af.afmug.com>; syssup <sys...@ecsis.net>
Subject: [AFMUG] Question for the "borg" about ISP
access to ROW
Question for those more in tune than I.
We are working (attempting) with our local
electric company for access to their ROW for some
of our fiber and they have stated that the rights
granted ISP's under Title II (telecommunications
provider) in 2015 was reversed in 2017 and then in
2018 ISP's were put back as "information" services
removing any Title II rights and reverting them to
Title I only. Escentially they are saying we have
to be a LEC or CLEC to get access.
Anyone have a good answer for this ??
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