It does.  Also does IPv4 CG-NAT very well.   We made it pretty far without 
having to resort to CG-NAT but the time came about a year ago :-)

Mark


> On Mar 6, 2023, at 1:29 PM, Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
> 
> We use Juniper for BNG on a MX204 but I'd be interested in the Netelastic 
> route if it does IPoE BNG.  
> 
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 12:24 PM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net 
> <mailto:m...@amplex.net>> wrote:
>> Same.   Way less than Juniper (which we currently use but are migrating off 
>> of).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2023, at 1:09 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com 
>>> <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We are using NetElastic for CGNAT + BNG, happy so far
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Gino Villarini
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>>> @GVillarini
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>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on 
>>> behalf of Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.com 
>>> <mailto:sterl...@avative.com>>
>>> Date: Monday, March 6, 2023 at 2:05 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com 
>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender
>>> 
>>> I bet you are right.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Cisco is probably more expensive than Juniper for CG-NAT would be my guess 
>>> from what I’ve heard around shop.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On 
>>> Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 9:25 AM
>>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com 
>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Sounds like we’re on a similar journey. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Our new owners are a Juniper shop, but the Juniper CG-NAT solution was so 
>>> expensive they went with A10 Networks for that function.  Without licenses 
>>> (and I think a feature card) the Juniper MX would only do 1:1 static NAT. 
>>> It was cheaper to buy an A10 appliance than to get the licenses and such 
>>> for Juniper MX.
>>> 
>>> I don’t like A10.  They’re weird.  But we set them up once and never touch 
>>> them again.  They’re still not cheap, probably an order of magnitude more 
>>> than Mikrotik, but they’re also an order of magnitude cheaper than 
>>> implementing CG-NAT on the Juniper MX.   I’d imagine Cisco will be in the 
>>> same ballpark as Juniper, but I don’t know.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On 
>>> Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
>>> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2023 10:13 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com 
>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I don’t know that since we don’t use it yet.
>>> 
>>> I don’t have cost insight into our parent company’s infrastructure unless 
>>> we adopt it.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> We’ll probably continue to use Mikrotik for CGNAT even with Calix for a few 
>>> years since it works so well and costs so little.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On 
>>> Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 6:47 AM
>>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com 
>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> How is Cisco for CG-NAT? 
>>> 
>>> I looked into it for Juniper and if I recall correctly it required 
>>> licensing and a feature card that it made it cost prohibitive.  We went a 
>>> different direction.   Wondering if Cisco’s pricing is reasonable.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On 
>>> Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
>>> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2023 5:52 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com 
>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Hi Gino!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I’ll answer you and Carl here, same question.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> We have funding now from our parent company STRATA Networks, and they use 
>>> Calix by the thousands, so being a Calix shop makes it easy on us in terms 
>>> of everything.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> There doesn’t seem to be a mid-road XGSPON, maybe UI? I don’t know.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> TIBIT is like the least expensive but the hardest to get spun up.
>>> 
>>> We had the resources to figure TIBIT out (eventually) and run with it 
>>> before we finished a deal with the parent company.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Calix is just on a whole other level, especially when we buy in to all the 
>>> cool aid they are selling (parent company uses a lot/most of their feature 
>>> set).
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> So that is our new directive and big push.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Along with that incidentally is the push to migrate from TPLink Deco 
>>> managed router platform to Calix (again, the Gigaspire hardware and cool 
>>> aid platform including marketing insights).
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> So we have a short term project to migrate off of all of our TIBIT, mostly 
>>> because it’s not manageable or able to be monitored from external systems.
>>> 
>>> Calix integrates directly with Sonar v2 which is nice as well.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> So at some point we’ll have migrated our entire access network and managed 
>>> routers to Calix.
>>> 
>>> Still running Mikroitk core and edge routers, and customer facing CGNAT 
>>> until we are absolutely so flush with cash that we just purchase the Cisco 
>>> platform to do the central heavy lifting and just transport the whole load 
>>> of Calix based E7 stuff back “home” to Cisco like our parent company does.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> More than you asked, but we are essentially converting wholesale from an 
>>> Active Ethernet network to XGSPON/Calix and hope to eventually retire most 
>>> of our power hungry switches, and even most of the Mikrotik.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Just a part of growing up I guess lol
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On 
>>> Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
>>> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 11:00 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com 
>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Sterling, why you are moving away from Tibit?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
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>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on 
>>> behalf of Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.com 
>>> <mailto:sterl...@avative.com>>
>>> Date: Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:15 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com 
>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender
>>> 
>>> We are using TIBIT, but native. Migrating off of them to Calix, so if 
>>> anyone is interested in TIBIT we could give some supplies shortly and even 
>>> an imaged VM controller etc.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Carl, we use Mikrotik CRS305 here and there, are you asking about powering 
>>> a TIBIT OLT? Or just a 10G media converter?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The 10G media converters work in them, but Mikrotik states that you should 
>>> “skip” every other port with those because they run HOT.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Never tried a TIBIT OLT in it, but would probably also work.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On 
>>> Behalf Of Carl Peterson
>>> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 10:00 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com 
>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Hey Gino,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Are you doing this directly through TiBit or through a distributor like 
>>> Fonex?  We had an NDA with TiBit from a long time ago but don't with Fonex. 
>>>  TiBit passed us off to Fonex.  Am interested in what other distributors 
>>> there are and what support numbers look like.  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 10:09 AM Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com 
>>> <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We are about to do the same (Siklu+Tibit) , maybe a 10GbaseT to SFP+ Media 
>>> Converter will do?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
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>>> behalf of Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com 
>>> <mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>>
>>> Date: Friday, March 3, 2023 at 11:51 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com 
>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender
>>> 
>>> I'm not doing liquid cooling.  See the pics I posted above.  Just need to 
>>> extend the SFP+ cage out of a Siklu radio.  The alternative is to add 
>>> another little switch but that adds complexity to what is a simple design.  
>>> PON hanging off a Siklu for a small apartment building.  Only thing active 
>>> is the Siklu and the "SFP".  One cyber power 48V battery backup to power 
>>> the silku.  If you add a switch, how are you powering it, where is it 
>>> mounted, etc.  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On the note of adding a switch.  Has anyone used the CRS305-1G-4S+IN?  
>>> Anyone have a contact at Mikrotiik who could find out the SFP+ port's power 
>>> budget?  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 9:32 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m curious what Carl Peterson is doing too. 
>>> 
>>> The description on the linked item says it’s so you can put your 
>>> electronics into immersed liquid cooling without exposing your optics to 
>>> the liquid.  Pretty esoteric stuff.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Not understanding the use case, but assuming there’s a reason you can’t 
>>> extend the fiber a few feet with a jumper and mating sleeve, then how about 
>>> use a DAC to reach another switch?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On 
>>> Behalf Of Zach Underwood
>>> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2023 9:58 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com 
>>> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP+ cage extender
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I am curious what the application is that a longer cable would not address? 
>>> I have never heard of such a device.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 9:56 AM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com 
>>> <mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have an application where I need to extend a SFP+ cage a foot or two but 
>>> need 3.5W peak and 2.7W continuous power.  The existing device supports the 
>>> power but the only SFP+ cage extender I can find is only rated at 2.5W.  
>>> Can you passively just extend the cage pins or is this something that 
>>> requires electronics?  Anyone know of a higher power SFP extension cable?  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> https://www.sfpcables.com/sfp-to-sfp-cage-with-3m-flat-cable-in-nylon-jacket-20cm-and-55cm-length-3256-5454
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