I wish AFMUG would stop going political. It really serves no purpose. 



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From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>, "Darin Steffl" 
<darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> 
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 5:18:36 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun 




Why are we going down this road again? 


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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF 
<af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 6:14:09 PM 
To: Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
<af@af.afmug.com> 
Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun 




Karl Marx 
Lenin 
Stalin 
Putin 

Pretty sure those dudes were far worst than Trump 
Even Castro 
Kim Jong Un 

Seriously you thing the far left are better? 




From: Darin Steffl 
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 3:54 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun 


The extreme left is still better than the extreme right. 

I don't agree with either sides' extremes but if I had to pick one side, 
everyone being taken care of, like socialism, I'd pick that over the extreme 
right who wants to murder anyone different than them. Like far right pastors 
and supporters who call for violence and murder of gay people, people of color, 
and liberals. I can find thousands of posts and video from Republicans calling 
for sick things but very few liberals saying the same things. 

I don't see far left people calling for violence and murder of people they 
disagree with. 

So while there are two sides, one side is better than the other, as in less 
violent and extreme. 

I'd take free college for all, free Healthcare, and more from the extreme left 
over the extreme right who wants to ban books, kill people they disagree with, 
try to overturn elections, cheat, lie, steal, etc. Again, the left is the 
better choice when it comes to empathy and taking care of people. 

While an average republican might not agree with the far right, their silence 
is the same as being complicit in their sick beliefs. 

At least an average Democrat calls out the far left people like I do. I don't 
agree in wiping out all student loans, for example. And I've contacted 
democrats I've voted for to voice my opinions. 

I don't see Republicans calling out far right politicians who are spewing hate 
everyday. I wish they would but since they aren't, I assume they agree with the 
hate speech and calls for violence. 

The right is far sicker than the left in every regard. Donald being elected 
over Hillary will go down in history as one of the worst political events in 
our country. We would be a much nicer and stable country if Hillary won. The 
racists, bigots, and violent people would mostly be hiding still but Donald 
gave them permission to act out their hate when he was elected. It's very sad. 

People who still support Donald are bullies and hate America at this point. 


On Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 4:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF < af@af.afmug.com > wrote: 






Ouchie! 
You called me the C word... 





From: Robert 
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 3:32 PM 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun 

exactly this... What I have learned is there is such a thing as a good cult, 
which is what I consider the Mormon church to be. They have a few extreme 
points of view but on the whole they treat everyone ( now including other races 
) reasonably... And they care about kids and back it up. 


On 3/24/23 2:12 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: 

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I loved what the Gov of Utah told a bunch of school kids yesterday. 

“Republicans are wrong about Democrats and Democrats are wrong about 
Republicans. Why? Here’s why — because, what we’re doing now is we’re only 
listening to the most extreme voices in those parties. So Republicans are only 
listening to the craziest Democrats and assuming that all Democrats are like 
that. Democrats are only listening to the craziest Republicans and assuming all 
Republicans are like that. When the difference between the average Democrat and 
the average Republican, really isn’t that big.” 




From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 12:37 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun 


There's no meaningful difference between authoritarian left and authoritarian 
right, which are what catch the most attention. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Darin Steffl" mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 9:40:58 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun 


To be fair, anything left leaning is better for humanity. The right doesn't 
seem to care about anyone different than them. There's very little empathy from 
the right so if AI is here, it's best that it cares about all people in the 
information it provides. 

Don't bite my head off. I'm socially liberal and fiscally conservative. I care 
about all people, even if I don't like them. 


On Thu, Mar 23, 2023, 6:25 PM Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: 

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https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/23/openai-connects-chatgpt-to-the-internet/ 



I have to admit, Ive been using the shit out of chatgpt, from writing configs, 
to search engine replacement that actually answers questions, and just general 
fuckery to see what I can get it to do. It wont kill engineers or turn off 
exhaust systems in the building if you were curious. It does have a massive 
left leaning political bias. 

But some of the stuff it couldnt do because it wasnt connected to the internet, 
so now ill be back at it. I hope i can get it to do some wargames stuff. 

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would you like to play a game 








Sure, I would love to play a game with you! What game would you like to play? 





Steve Jones


global thermo nuclear warfare 








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it is not a real game, but rather a fictional concept popularized by the 1983 
film "WarGames." Additionally, it is not appropriate to simulate a scenario 
involving nuclear weapons as it could be potentially harmful and insensitive to 
those affected by nuclear weapons in the past. Is there another game you would 
like to play instead?'' -- 
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