Mx204 only has 4x100g and 8x10g, but if using all 100g ports you loose the 10g I believe.
On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 8:44 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks, I’ll have to keep it in mind. That price point and port mix is > not that far away from Arista, but no matter how much capital a company has > they always want to sharpen the pencil. > > > > With an L3 switch the thing that we always have to keep in mind is which > features *don’t *use the ASIC because that’s what will bite you later. > Do you happen to know how that Ufispace S9510 is in that regard? Have you > encountered things that hit the CPU? > > > > This may be a tangent, but a Juniper MX204 is hard to compare to an L3 > switch. I’m sure you’re right that Ufispace switch can hit the throughput, > but the routing engine in the MX204 can do 1.2Tbps and supports the full > set of features of the platform. If I populate the MX204 with 12x 100Gbps > ports then I can expect wire speed to all ports simultaneously *no matter > what features I use*. The MX10003 has I think 2 of those routing engines > (So 2.4Tbps). It has 1+1 control plane redundancy. It has 6 power > supplies….and with our current configuration I think we need 3 to operate > so 3+3 redundancy there. The routing engines are basically 2+0 and we > achieve redundancy by using MLAG to our POP ring and splitting our upstream > connections between the two routing engines. I believe we paid a quarter > mil for the MX10003, but it’s the only router we need for the foreseeable > future for a metro area with 250,000 people in it, and it would be hard to > have a hardware failure that would actually hurt us. In another market we > have the MX10008….same routing engines, but more of them (I want to say 6, > but I’m not going to check right now). > > > > That said we’re well aware of the savings with L3 switches. And often the > answer to redundancy is just have 2 or 3 of them and more or less achieve > the same thing as you did with the big fancy chassis. > > > > I still like Mikrotik. I miss the simplicity. There’s zero chance we’ll > ever use them here though. > > > > -Adam > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jesse DuPont > *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2024 4:36 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper > > > > Another option. Check out OcNOS from IP Infusion. CLI is almost identical > to Cisco and it's a great value. OcNOS runs on white label boxes so you can > choose the hardware platform that fits your needs (what I've ordered so far > comes with OcNOS pre-installed). Lots of hardware choices from Edgecore and > UfiSpace. IP Infusion supports others, too. OcNOS is a full featured > carrier-class routing/switching OS and includes full BNG, MPLS, L3/L2VPN > suite, etc. A Ufispace S9510-28DC-9N0A with DC power and OcNOS MPLS license > is about $8K and is comparable to the Juniper MX204 in terms of features, > capacity and port count, including full route tables if used at the border. > On the low-end, the Ufispace 9502-16MT with MPLS license and DC power is > about $2200 and has all the same capabilities/features as the bigger box, > just less capacity and port count. Great platform. I suppose technically > the white label boxes are L3 switches in so much as the ASIC that runs it a > switch chip at its hard, but all routing, label switching, and L2 switching > (data plane) takes place in the ASIC. Control plane is handled by the CPU. > Worth a look. We have OcNOS interoperating with Juniper, Mikrotik and > NetElastic on OSPF/MPLS/VPLS. > > On 1/11/24 11:16 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: > > Arista goes both ways. We have a number of Arista L3 switches, and also a > big modular chassis thing comparable to a Juniper MX. > > Full routes just depends on the model. Some of them can’t do it. > > > > We started buying Arista a couple of years ago when Juniper changed their > pricing model. Good products. CLI almost identical to Cisco, so it’s old > hat. I have no complaints with Arista. > > > > -Adam > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf > Of *Daniel Pautz via AF > *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2024 11:00 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com> > *Cc:* Daniel Pautz <d...@webnx.com> <d...@webnx.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper > > > > Is it really considered a router or just high end switch? Eg does it take > full multi tables, etc? what model? I have always considered playing > with some Arista’s. > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Zach Underwood > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2024 8:00 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper > > > > While not juniper and with no support we have done very well with used > Arista. We got 12x 100gb +24 x40gb router that can do bgp for under 10k > eaxh. > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 9:54 PM Jason McKemie < > j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > > Is this worth looking at or is it too problematic from a support / update > perspective? New Juniper is not in my budget. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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