I presumed they were in polar orbits.  
Google shows a bunch of criss cross inclined orbits.  
I don’t see how looking in the northern direction would help.  

From: Robert 
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2024 1:37 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting (to me)

Well, as I said, you have to take _everything_ she writes with the 
understanding that she is an alarmist and a promoter.   I would be pretty sure 
she got paid by both T-Mobile and Hiboost, & I have seen others say the same 
problem she mentioned about Weboost but both times it was proven to be a bad 
setup.   ( I have weboost but don't need it )  

Starlink has to avoid transmitting into the Clark Belt, they are using the same 
frequencies.  So they use the northern hemisphere.   If you aren't on the 
equator, your dish can be flat and avoid the Clark Belt no problemo.  Beam 
steering decides the pointing and tilt is just a hangover of the earlier 
constraints..  

Before the number of sats reached where they are now, they tended to use a 
higher latitude center of focus for the sats because you get more density at 
the northern inclinations of the orbits.   That is going away rapidly.   I flat 
mount my dish in the shower bubble of my RV for mobile use.   It shows no 
obstructions when not under an actual obstruction.   It now takes a pretty 
high/close cliff to obstruct the dish and we are seeing the latest s/w doing 
much better with a smaller sky area and probably 15 degrees higher in latitude 
than in the past.  Some people have seen their dishes pointing east and west 
and, amazingly, south.  I suspect that was because Starlink was testing the 
relay system on them.  The latest version of the dish is supposed to support 
dual beams from what people are reading in the software analysis.  It comes 
with a fixed stand that only tilts it about 15-20 degrees off vertical.  The 
understanding is that the tilt is now just for snow/water shedding.   


Starlink has busy hour lower priority for _mobile_ users.  It puts the mobile 
users behind the fixed users for b/w.  _Not_ throttled.   Lower speeds during 
6-10pm are for the same reasons our networks experience it and Starlink has 
loaded on the customers way heavier than we probably would. 

It takes a _LOT_ of rain to reduce the performance of Starlink.   I've seen no 
issues with 1/4-1/2"/hr rain.  Granted that is rare in N. NV.  But they are 
transmitting with a lot of power in both directions.   I got my first solid 
disconnection during a massive storm in TX when we were there for the eclipse.  
 That was enough rain that it was piling up in the street.  I didn't check my 
weather station as we were headed for a storm shelter.   


On 5/6/24 11:10 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

  What I found most interesting were the following things I did not know:
    a.. Starlink needs a Northern sky exposure 
    b.. Starlink has busy hour throttling 
    c.. Starlink slows with rain (expected, and understandable but had not 
heard that before) 

  I liked that she found a brand of booster that she says works well.  




  From: Robert 
  Sent: Monday, May 6, 2024 11:59 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting (to me)

  I've watched her for years and she has, occasionally, some good stuff.  But 
on the whole she has gotten so into promoting what she was paid for and in a 
few cases gotten caught promoting bad products.  

  She major league jumped on board a cell internet reseller and promoted a 
really dishonest company because she didn't wait long enough for the bad to 
come out.  Then claimed innocence...  

  Well here she was again.  T-Mobile just chomped down on those people using 
T-mobile home service away from home.   If you want to do what she is 
promoting, it's now $160/month    

  On _any_ cellular internet service, I say wait 1.5 years to find out if the 
provider is really going to support it or is it a bait and switch.   ATT did 
exactly that 4 years ago, even promoting the service with mobile users just to 
pull it all away after usage became too high in just over a year.  


  On 5/6/24 10:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

    https://youtu.be/XcofyNWDyao?si=0ulY_LiFcb2HlnaY


     


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