If you don’t need paid support from RedHat, CentOS is the way to go, it’s the
same thing minus the support and branding.
Want a chuckle? Take a look at the Solarwinds management product advertised on
the ISC website. Probably nothing wrong with the product, Solarwinds is a good
company. But the price is just ridiculous. It will make you happy to use
webmin. Honestly I just vi the files manually. But you’re not going to get a
customer to do that.
Steve, didn’t you say you had cPanel? Doesn’t that include a DNS server and
management tool, at least for authoritative DNS?
From: Josh Baird via Af
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 9:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
There probably isn't. Use CentOS.
Josh
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:34 PM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
I dont want bleeding edge, I like stable, and as long as its "secure" I dont
like to change.
I never had really thought about purchased Linux before, looking at RHEL I
have no clue and I dont know that there is much benefit to it with a handful of
small single purpose virtual servers
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Josh Baird via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
I don't use webmin, so I can't specifically answer your questions.. but,
yes, Webmin is simply a "front-end" for various services that you have running
on your server. Out of the box, your server is configured to use specific yum
(software) repositories that are specific to CentOS 5/6/7. Unless you manually
update one of these repository definitions or are using your own local RPM
packages, you will be pointing at these native repositories. CentOS/RHEL
repositories maintain the same major version of package (9.8.2 in EL6, 9.9.4 in
EL7) throughout a major version's lifecycle (ie 6.x, 7.x). RHEL/CentOS
backports security patches into older (stable) versions; so even if you are
running RHEL6 with BIND 9.8.2, you are not vulnerable to security flaws or
exploits (as long as you keep your server's packages up to date).
CentOS/RHEL is not bleeding edge. They offer stable versions of software
and keep them up to date and safe by backporting security patches. If you want
bleeding edge packages you have a few options - find third party yum
repositories with newer packages, compile your own BIND or use "non-enterprise"
Linux distributions such as Fedora.
Josh
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:09 PM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
so, webmin, it is just in its most basic form a gui and package
management system for linux and linux server components?? Is this correct?
When I go to the package manager through webmin is if only looking in
repositories for packages compiled to run in webmin, or is it looking for
packages compiled for the underlying linux distibution??
So if I want to update to the newest fanciest BIND version, how would I
go about it, yum update bind and the like dont take it any further? If I did
this outside of webmin, will I lose the webmin functionality or cause it not to
function? Virtualmin as best i can tell is a module for webmin, will this give
me better access to newer versions of BIND? I like windows because stuff either
doesnt work or its got bugs, we get two choices.
It looks like 9.8.8 is EOL last month, so i see what you guys are saying
about being behind
9.9.6 and 9.10.1 are both listed as current and stable, but 9.9.6 says
Extended Support Version, what does that mean?
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:51 PM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
i assume i cant update BIND beyong releases specific to CentOS?
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
My BIND servers are on 9.10.0-P2.
From: That One Guy via Af
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 6:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
I already have installed bind through webmin, it is a newer version,
just by a couple revisions but the ubuntu one wont update any more
its BIND version 9.8.2
I can manually add the slave zone and test the transfer it updates
from the master, I just assumed I should be able to add it as another slave and
have it populate all the way
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af <af@afmug.com>
wrote:
You need a named.conf that defines the slave zones and the IP
address of the master.
But first step is to download/compile/install the latest version of
BIND, it’s actually quite easy. I doubt you can get the version you want via
yum update because CentOS is based on RHEL which is always a few steps behind.
Given the DNS attacks, you want the latest BIND. You might then want to lock
out the package from being updated by yum.
From: That One Guy via Af
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 4:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
So Im at a new Centos with webmin fresh bind install.
We have one master, one slave server
I have never set up bind, this was done before me.
If I were to take down the old slave server and bring this one up
on its IP will the master update this one, or is there a config I need to move
over. Im more comfotable doing the slave first.
These are all webmin, but the original is ubuntu and the new is
centos
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Paul Stewart via Af <af@afmug.com>
wrote:
I always install CentOS bare bones …. “minimal server” is what
the installation will call it. This way you can install whatever you like
after installation and not worry about removing many dozen packages you don’t
need…
Just my preference anyways….
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy
via Af
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 2:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
2 questions in this
1. when running through the current centos installation, what do
i select for the server type, for powercode it says select basic server
2. is there a guide for building dedicated centos servers based
on server purpose? I assume there are packages I dont need to install if its
only got this purpose
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Paul Stewart via Af
<af@afmug.com> wrote:
CentOS+BIND+Webmin J I can’t remember but Usermin might be the
part you’re looking for specific to users updating their own DNS…..
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One
Guy via Af
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 1:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
Is there a good, simple package for locally hosted DNS Servers
for people like me who dont want to get too far into managing the linux at a
granular level? we are used to the webmin interface. It would be nice if it had
the option to set up client accounts for some clients to manage their own DNS
but not view others, but thats in no way a deal breaker
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use
a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use
a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use
a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use
a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use
a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't
get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't
get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
