CentOS and Webmin. Free and easy way to get a DNS server going. 

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> On Oct 2, 2014, at 7:37 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
> 
> If you don’t need paid support from RedHat, CentOS is the way to go, it’s the 
> same thing minus the support and branding.
>  
> Want a chuckle?  Take a look at the Solarwinds management product advertised 
> on the ISC website.  Probably nothing wrong with the product, Solarwinds is a 
> good company.  But the price is just ridiculous.  It will make you happy to 
> use webmin.  Honestly I just vi the files manually.  But you’re not going to 
> get a customer to do that.
>  
> Steve, didn’t you say you had cPanel?  Doesn’t that include a DNS server and 
> management tool, at least for authoritative DNS?
>  
> From: Josh Baird via Af
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 9:19 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
>  
> There probably isn't.  Use CentOS.
>  
> Josh
>  
>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:34 PM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>> I dont want bleeding edge, I like stable, and as long as its "secure" I dont 
>> like to change. 
>> I never had really thought about purchased Linux before, looking at RHEL I 
>> have no clue and I dont know that there is much benefit to it with a handful 
>> of small single purpose virtual servers
>>  
>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Josh Baird via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>>> I don't use webmin, so I can't specifically answer your questions.. but, 
>>> yes, Webmin is simply a "front-end" for various services that you have 
>>> running on your server.  Out of the box, your server is configured to use 
>>> specific yum (software) repositories that are specific to CentOS 5/6/7.  
>>> Unless you manually update one of these repository definitions or are using 
>>> your own local RPM packages, you will be pointing at these native 
>>> repositories.  CentOS/RHEL repositories maintain the same major version of 
>>> package (9.8.2 in EL6, 9.9.4 in EL7) throughout a major version's lifecycle 
>>> (ie 6.x, 7.x).  RHEL/CentOS backports security patches into older (stable) 
>>> versions; so even if you are running RHEL6 with BIND 9.8.2, you are not 
>>> vulnerable to security flaws or exploits (as long as you keep your server's 
>>> packages up to date).
>>>  
>>> CentOS/RHEL is not bleeding edge.  They offer stable versions of software 
>>> and keep them up to date and safe by backporting security patches.  If you 
>>> want bleeding edge packages you have a few options - find third party yum 
>>> repositories with newer packages, compile your own BIND or use 
>>> "non-enterprise" Linux distributions such as Fedora.
>>>  
>>> Josh
>>>  
>>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:09 PM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>>>> so, webmin, it is just in its most basic form a gui and package management 
>>>> system for linux and linux server components?? Is this correct?
>>>>  
>>>> When I go to the package manager through webmin is if only looking in      
>>>>   repositories for packages compiled to run in webmin, or is it looking 
>>>> for        packages compiled for the underlying linux distibution??
>>>>  
>>>> So if I want to update to the newest fanciest BIND version, how would I go 
>>>> about it, yum update bind and the like dont take it any further? If I did 
>>>> this outside of webmin, will I lose the webmin functionality or cause it 
>>>> not to function? Virtualmin as best i can tell is a module for webmin, 
>>>> will this give me better access to newer versions of BIND? I like windows 
>>>> because stuff either doesnt work or its got bugs, we get two choices.
>>>>  
>>>> It looks like 9.8.8 is EOL last month, so i see what you guys are saying 
>>>> about being behind
>>>> 9.9.6 and 9.10.1 are both listed as current and stable, but 9.9.6 says 
>>>> Extended Support Version, what does that mean?
>>>>  
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:51 PM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>>>>> i assume i cant update BIND beyong releases specific to CentOS?
>>>>>  
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>>>>>> My BIND servers are on 9.10.0-P2.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> From: That One Guy via Af
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 6:10 PM
>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I already have installed bind through webmin, it is a newer version, 
>>>>>> just by a couple revisions but the ubuntu one wont update any more
>>>>>> its BIND version 9.8.2
>>>>>> I can manually add the slave zone and test the transfer it updates from 
>>>>>> the master, I just assumed I should be able to add it as another slave 
>>>>>> and have it populate all the way
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> You need a named.conf that defines the slave zones and the IP address 
>>>>>>> of the master.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> But first step is to download/compile/install the latest version of 
>>>>>>> BIND, it’s actually quite easy.  I doubt you can get the version you 
>>>>>>> want via yum update because CentOS is based on RHEL which is always a 
>>>>>>> few steps behind.  Given the DNS attacks, you want the latest BIND.  
>>>>>>> You might then want to lock out the package from being updated by yum.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> From: That One Guy via Af
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 4:36 PM
>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> So Im at a new Centos with webmin fresh bind install.
>>>>>>> We have one master, one slave server
>>>>>>> I have never set up bind, this was done before me.
>>>>>>> If I were to take down the old slave server and bring this one up on 
>>>>>>> its IP will the master update this one, or is there a config I need to 
>>>>>>> move over. Im more comfotable doing the slave first.
>>>>>>> These are all webmin, but the original is ubuntu and the new is centos
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Paul Stewart via Af <af@afmug.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I always install CentOS bare bones …. “minimal server” is what the 
>>>>>>>> installation will call it.  This way you can install whatever you like 
>>>>>>>> after installation and not worry about removing many dozen packages 
>>>>>>>> you don’t need…
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just my preference anyways….
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 2:24 PM
>>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2 questions in this
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 1. when running through the current centos installation, what do i 
>>>>>>>> select for the server type, for powercode it says select basic server
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2. is there a guide for building dedicated centos servers based on 
>>>>>>>> server purpose? I assume there are                packages I dont need 
>>>>>>>> to install if its only got this purpose
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Paul Stewart via Af <af@afmug.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> CentOS+BIND+Webmin J                   I can’t remember but Usermin 
>>>>>>>> might be the part you’re looking for specific to users updating their 
>>>>>>>> own DNS…..
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Is there a good, simple package for locally hosted DNS Servers for 
>>>>>>>> people like me who dont want to get too far into managing the linux at 
>>>>>>>> a granular level? we are used to the webmin interface. It would be 
>>>>>>>> nice if it had the option to set up client accounts for some clients 
>>>>>>>> to manage their own DNS but not view others, but thats in no way a 
>>>>>>>> deal breaker
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that 
>>>>>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if 
>>>>>>>> you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
>>>>>>>> means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that 
>>>>>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if 
>>>>>>>> you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
>>>>>>>> means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that 
>>>>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if 
>>>>>>> you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
>>>>>>> means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the 
>>>>>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you 
>>>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do 
>>>>>> not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the  
>>>>>         parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, 
>>>>> if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
>>>>> means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> -- 
>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the 
>>>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you 
>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do 
>>>> not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> -- 
>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the 
>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't 
>> get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a 
>> hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
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