If you don’t need paid support from RedHat, CentOS is the way to
go, it’s the same thing minus the support and branding.
Want a chuckle? Take a look at the Solarwinds management product
advertised on the ISC website. Probably nothing wrong with the
product, Solarwinds is a good company. But the price is just
ridiculous. It will make you happy to use webmin. Honestly I
just vi the files manually. But you’re not going to get a
customer to do that.
Steve, didn’t you say you had cPanel? Doesn’t that include a DNS
server and management tool, at least for authoritative DNS?
*From:* Josh Baird via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 9:19 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys who dont want to be gurus
There probably isn't. Use CentOS.
Josh
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:34 PM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
I dont want bleeding edge, I like stable, and as long as its
"secure" I dont like to change.
I never had really thought about purchased Linux before,
looking at RHEL I have no clue and I dont know that there is
much benefit to it with a handful of small single purpose
virtual servers
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Josh Baird via Af
<af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
I don't use webmin, so I can't specifically answer your
questions.. but, yes, Webmin is simply a "front-end" for
various services that you have running on your server.
Out of the box, your server is configured to use specific
yum (software) repositories that are specific to CentOS
5/6/7. Unless you manually update one of these repository
definitions or are using your own local RPM packages, you
will be pointing at these native repositories.
CentOS/RHEL repositories maintain the same major version
of package (9.8.2 in EL6, 9.9.4 in EL7) throughout a
major version's lifecycle (ie 6.x, 7.x). RHEL/CentOS
backports security patches into older (stable) versions;
so even if you are running RHEL6 with BIND 9.8.2, you are
not vulnerable to security flaws or exploits (as long as
you keep your server's packages up to date).
CentOS/RHEL is not bleeding edge. They offer stable
versions of software and keep them up to date and safe by
backporting security patches. If you want bleeding edge
packages you have a few options - find third party yum
repositories with newer packages, compile your own BIND
or use "non-enterprise" Linux distributions such as Fedora.
Josh
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:09 PM, That One Guy via Af
<af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
so, webmin, it is just in its most basic form a gui
and package management system for linux and linux
server components?? Is this correct?
When I go to the package manager through webmin is if
only looking in repositories for packages compiled to
run in webmin, or is it looking for packages compiled
for the underlying linux distibution??
So if I want to update to the newest fanciest BIND
version, how would I go about it, yum update bind and
the like dont take it any further? If I did this
outside of webmin, will I lose the webmin
functionality or cause it not to function? Virtualmin
as best i can tell is a module for webmin, will this
give me better access to newer versions of BIND? I
like windows because stuff either doesnt work or its
got bugs, we get two choices.
It looks like 9.8.8 is EOL last month, so i see what
you guys are saying about being behind
9.9.6 and 9.10.1 are both listed as current and
stable, but 9.9.6 says Extended Support Version, what
does that mean?
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:51 PM, That One Guy via Af
<af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
i assume i cant update BIND beyong releases
specific to CentOS?
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af
<af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
My BIND servers are on 9.10.0-P2.
*From:* That One Guy via Af
<mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 6:10 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for guys
who dont want to be gurus
I already have installed bind through webmin,
it is a newer version, just by a couple
revisions but the ubuntu one wont update any
more
its BIND version 9.8.2
I can manually add the slave zone and test
the transfer it updates from the master, I
just assumed I should be able to add it as
another slave and have it populate all the way
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Ken Hohhof
via Af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
wrote:
You need a named.conf that defines the
slave zones and the IP address of the master.
But first step is to
download/compile/install the latest
version of BIND, it’s actually quite
easy. I doubt you can get the version
you want via yum update because CentOS is
based on RHEL which is always a few steps
behind. Given the DNS attacks, you want
the latest BIND. You might then want to
lock out the package from being updated
by yum.
*From:* That One Guy via Af
<mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 4:36 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for
guys who dont want to be gurus
So Im at a new Centos with webmin fresh
bind install.
We have one master, one slave server
I have never set up bind, this was done
before me.
If I were to take down the old slave
server and bring this one up on its IP
will the master update this one, or is
there a config I need to move over. Im
more comfotable doing the slave first.
These are all webmin, but the original is
ubuntu and the new is centos
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Paul
Stewart via Af <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
I always install CentOS bare bones ….
“minimal server” is what the
installation will call it. This way
you can install whatever you like
after installation and not worry
about removing many dozen packages
you don’t need…
Just my preference anyways….
*From:*Af
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af
*Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014
2:24 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DNS server for
guys who dont want to be gurus
2 questions in this
1. when running through the current
centos installation, what do i select
for the server type, for powercode it
says select basic server
2. is there a guide for building
dedicated centos servers based on
server purpose? I assume there are
packages I dont need to install if
its only got this purpose
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Paul
Stewart via Af <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
CentOS+BIND+Webmin JI can’t
remember but Usermin might be the
part you’re looking for specific
to users updating their own DNS…..
*From:*Af
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>]
*On Behalf Of *That One Guy via Af
*Sent:* Thursday, October 02,
2014 1:21 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] DNS server for
guys who dont want to be gurus
Is there a good, simple package
for locally hosted DNS Servers
for people like me who dont want
to get too far into managing the
linux at a granular level? we are
used to the webmin interface. It
would be nice if it had the
option to set up client accounts
for some clients to manage their
own DNS but not view others, but
thats in no way a deal breaker
--
All parts should go together
without forcing. You must
remember that the parts you are
reassembling were disassembled by
you. Therefore, if you can't get
them together again, there must
be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance
manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without
forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were
disassembled by you. Therefore, if
you can't get them together again,
there must be a reason. By all means,
do not use a hammer. -- IBM
maintenance manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without
forcing. You must remember that the parts
you are reassembling were disassembled by
you. Therefore, if you can't get them
together again, there must be a reason.
By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM
maintenance manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing.
You must remember that the parts you are
reassembling were disassembled by you.
Therefore, if you can't get them together
again, there must be a reason. By all means,
do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance
manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You
must remember that the parts you are reassembling
were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't
get them together again, there must be a reason.
By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM
maintenance manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You
must remember that the parts you are reassembling
were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get
them together again, there must be a reason. By all
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance
manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must
remember that the parts you are reassembling were
disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
