Unless your boss is a dick (apparently a real possibility), a good approach is
to ask when your next review will be and what achievements or metrics would
qualify you for a bigger raise or a promotion. You are setting him up. He
says do X and you get a promotion and a raise, and you do X. Makes it hard to
deny you the reward, since he set the rules for the game. He even gets the
enjoyment of telling himself he motivated you to achieve the goals he set, like
getting a rat to run a maze in order to get the cheese, when in fact you
motivated him to give you a raise.
From: That One Guy via Af
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 10:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] valuing a pay increase
Yeah, Jab starts their phone techs at more than I make, but Im one of those
people that wont quit.
Im pretty critical, but my employer is one that will just let things fail and
deal with the aftermath. Ive worked for the organization for 10 years and this
company for 5. Ive missed one deadline, the first in my life, and that was when
my dads family shop burned down and I had to take some time off to dig through
the rubble. They wouldnt find a person to replace me directly, the
routing/transit management would go to a 3rd party consultant/contractor, they
would rely on Powercode directly to manage that and the associated hardware,
They would contract our partner company to manage the infrastructure builds, he
would move from the inexpensive UBNT type hardware on the backhaul network to
licensed "set and forget" links, specced out by vendors installed by
contractors. The backend systems like our DNS, internal messaging sytems,
backup/archiving, etc would either fail or be redesigned by a consultant and
maintained under a contract. The contract support side stuff like the windows
server contracts he would pick up the slack on for a bit and hand off any
excess to our current 3rd party consultant we use for big project assistance.
All the extra stuff like surveillance/dvr systems would go to the techs limited
by their capacity. Incidentals that pop up periodically like the FCC crap and
ARIN interaction would all be handled by the respective agency we deal with
support staff. Day to day maintenance would get neglected for the most part,
then dealt with in disaster mode by the associated vendor support avenues. New
product would be handles by the salesguys from the vendors.
So realistically, I am very replaceable, with a pretty big upfront fee, but
probably in the long run the recurring cost would be less and an inbound guy to
fill my role would really only need to know which numbers to call. So it could
even be hes realized this and 8 cents is meant to be an insult.
In this industry in this economy, what kind of pay increases should a guy deem
fair? a penny more is a penny more
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
How valueable of an employee are you? Could you leave tomorrow and he
wouldn't notice a difference, or would all hell break lose? Would it take long
to find somebody worth their salt to replace you.
Can you quantify and list your achievements over the past 2.5 years?
Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
On 10/02/2014 06:49 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote:
im curious from the small business owner, which I assume most of you owners
on the list consider yourselves, how do you value a pay increase? (assume its
an employee that is worth their salt)
Do you try to just keep it where the employee has the same spending power,
ie just cost of living to match inflation, percentage based, profit based, set
value?
In discussions with the boss about future he mentioned a number, for shits
and giggles I compared what my last raise is worth today.
I havent had a raise in 2.5 years, and based on the government calculators
what I make now was worth 80 cents more 2.5 years ago than it is now.
The number he said was a dollar, which under normal curcumstances to po
folk like me isnt a small raise.
but when I looked at the numbers, that dollar only puts me 20 cents up on
where I was 2.5 years ago, that 8 cents a year in increased purchasing power.
That kind of boils down to an insult. Or is that the wrong way to look at
the value of the potential pay increase?
I have never believed in asking an employer for a raise, my thoughts have
always been that an employer thats a good employer will pay you what they think
your worth to them, apparently im worth 8 cents
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't
get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a
hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. --
IBM maintenance manual, 1925
