I haven't seen the same results... every single company I am involved with, and even the 20+ that I have met with over the last three months have all used Quickbooks.

Travis

On 10/16/2014 8:12 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
I would not use anything related to Quickbooks as an example of the best way to do something.
Your only choices from Intuit are how you get screwed, not whether.
*From:* Travis Johnson via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:02 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SM Isolation question
How do you figure? Everything will eventually be SaaS... and it's a much better model for both sides. The software stays updated and current and bug fixes are instant. The initial cost to start with the software is usually 1/10th what it would be to buy, and it allows people to use the software from anywhere.

Many years ago, I was of the same opinion. Then I started to realize my time (or anyone else's time) was better spent focusing on the product we sold rather than installing/fixing/supporting someone else's software.

I know I personally spent at least 50+ hours over the previous 15 years installing/fixing/supporting Quickbooks on our LAN. Getting it installed on a server, setting up the shares, mapping drive letters, installing it on each PC, etc. The software cost us $500 to buy, and then the yearly updates were usually $200-$300. Or you can subscribe to the online version for $39/month and be done with it. It's automatically backed up, you don't have to host it on your own server, or worry about upgrade issues or users with problems, etc.

Time is money. Spend your time doing what you know how to do, and hire someone else to do the other tasks. :)

Travis

On 10/15/2014 9:31 PM, Tyler Treat via Af wrote:
True story.

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On Oct 15, 2014, at 10:30 PM, Jason McKemie via Af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

Yeah, SaaS is great for the company that owns it, not so great for everyone else.

On Wednesday, October 15, 2014, Travis Johnson via Af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

    Nope... mainly SaaS companies and real estate. Best of both
    worlds. :)

    Travis

    On 10/15/2014 3:40 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote:

        Someone told me you were getting into manufacturing��



        Gino A. Villarini
        President
        Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
        www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
        @aeronetpr






        On 10/15/14, 5:31 PM, "Travis Johnson via Af" <af@afmug.com>
        wrote:

            It just depends on the day... :)

            Involved in 11 companies now, and looking at a 12th.
            Always stuff going
            on. LOL

            Travis

            On 10/15/2014 3:16 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote:

                Travis, are you getting bored at your current job? Lol!!

                Great to see you active in the list!



                Gino A. Villarini
                President
                Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
                www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com>
                @aeronetpr






                On 10/15/14, 4:14 PM, "Travis Johnson via Af"
                <af@afmug.com> wrote:

                    The other issue is p2p traffic between two
                    people on the same AP....
                    and
                    if you are doing bandwidth shaping in your
                    router, even at the tower,
                    you will never see these packets. Or in the case
                    the original poster
                    asked about, that customer could keep a high-def
                    window open of all
                    their video cameras at the other location, using
                    3-4Mbps of constant
                    traffic, and you would never see it.

                    Travis

                    On 10/15/2014 1:48 PM, George Skorup (Cyber
                    Broadcasting) via Af wrote:

                        When you forward SM-to-SM traffic upstream,
                        there's nothing the router
                        can do about it. Put the two locations on
                        different IP subnets so that
                        traffic between the two has to be routed. Or
                        turn off SM isolation.

                        I leave SM isolation off because I'm not
                        that paranoid. The biggest
                        risk is broadcast/multicast crap flying
                        around. So use the SM uplink
                        broadcast/multicast rate limiting. This is
                        one of the best features of
                        Canopy, IMO.

                        On 10/15/2014 2:23 PM, Christopher Tyler via
                        Af wrote:

                            We have a customer that has two SM's on
                            the same AP at separate
                            physical locations (home and office).
                            The have a DVR at each location
                            that they want to view. Everything is
                            configured properly on their
                            end to view the DVR's on port 80 through
                            their routers.   Problem is
                            that we have SM isolation turned on with
                            option 2 to forward packets
                            upstream and they want to see the home
                            when at the office and the
                            office when at home.

                            So I set up a mangle rule in my Mikortik
                            to mark the packets with a
                            routing mark based on the SRC and DST
                            addresses, and then used a
                            static route for anything what that mark
                            and send it back to the AP
                            port. It doesn't work, what am I doing
                            wrong, any suggestions short
                            of disabling SM isolation?






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