Huh? are you putting the cheap connectorized CPE on them or the $500 gps sync AP on them?
Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 > On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: > > The four sectors are still cheaper than one 450 on an omni. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > From: "Ken Hohhof via Af" <af@afmug.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 10:41:32 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons > > Which problem is easier to fix? You deployed an omni and take rate has been > phenomenal and you need more capacity? Or you deployed 4 sectors and only > have 5 subs between them? Well, I guess the second one, if the answer is > decommission the site and redeploy the equipment. > > > From: Tyler Treat via Af > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 10:28 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons > > Afford/justify. Either way I pretty much agree. And I was an omni fanboy. > > ___________________________ > Mangled by my iPhone. > ___________________________ > > Tyler Treat > Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. > > tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com > ___________________________ > > > On Oct 18, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Mike Hammett via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: > > I've noticed a lot of PMP operators are deploying omnis (presumably because > they can't afford 4 APs. Give me TDMA Atheros with sectors over omnis on > anything any day. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > From: "Kurt Fankhauser via Af" <af@afmug.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 8:38:14 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pmp450 vs epmp pros vs cons > > TJ, > > No difference between the 3 different frequencies bands (other than NLOS > range) as far as the product itself they are all the same animal. 2.4ghz NLOS > is slightly better than 3.65ghhz. They all function the same and have the > same expected throughputs per channel width. They all use the same firmware > and i love the interface being the same across all 3. The only major > difference is the 5ghz is V/H versus slant on the other two. That just > translates to the 5ghz omni being ALOT smaller and lighter. There are some > places that i wish the 2.4ghz woulda been V/H because of the omni size but > overall I am still very happy with the 2.4ghz 450. > > > Kurt Fankhauser > Wavelinc Communications > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > http://www.wavelinc.com > tel. 419-562-6405 > fax. 419-617-0110 > >> On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 4:57 AM, TJ Trout via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >> Kurt, >> >> Any pros and cons on 450 between 2ghz, 3.65 and 5? Any differences at all? >> Range vs throughput? Obviously 2ghz penetrates better, 3 is licensed >> and 5 has more spectrum but anything else? All bands are open for me >> >> Thanks >> >>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Kurt Fankhauser via Af <af@afmug.com> >>> wrote: >>> I started the spring deploying 450 in 2.4ghz, 5ghz, and 3.65ghz and then >>> middle of the summer deciding i had to"try" some ePMP because the cost was >>> so low I couldn't resist.... I can say now that I am fairly certain I will >>> probably stick with the 450. There are many small reasons that when I >>> considered them all i came to this conclusion. Here are my reasons: >>> >>> 1. ePMP latency starts to go up quickly once you have more than 10 clients >>> on an AP. Once you get over 20 clients the latency is pretty much 25-30 ms. >>> Cambium was honest about this at the road tour and they noted if you want >>> the best latency to stick with the 450. >>> 2. Sync between the two platforms is not there yet. If you have adjacent >>> towers on the different platforms that can see each other you won't have >>> sync. >>> 3. No remote spectrum analyzer for clients. This is HUGE for when the >>> clients fire up their wireless camera and baby monitors and trash the whole >>> spectrum. >>> 4.No burst bucket on CPE's >>> 5.EPMP Interface is SLOWWW. Cambium explained at the tour they were >>> offloading alot of processing power to the PC you are viewing the interface >>> with and i can't be taking a quad core machine up a tower to work on these >>> radios and do site surveys. I am working with a Panasonic Toughbook and >>> takes FOREVER to log into the EPMP radios. >>> 6. Fore some reason site surveys are a PITA with ePMP. Think its a >>> combination of many factors here... slow interface one of them... >>> 7. EPMP in 5ghz DFS band has really low power output. Something like >>> 13-14db. When using an omni antenna you can't get maximum legal EIRP out of >>> the ePMP. >>> 8. 450 link tests and SM modulation is pretty stable and predictable. EPMP >>> seems like its all over the place. I don't think I have yet seen EPMP >>> linktest get full up or down outside of a lab environment. >>> >>> There might be other reasons but I'm pretty tired and was heading for bed. >>> >>> >>> Kurt Fankhauser >>> Wavelinc Communications >>> P.O. Box 126 >>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>> http://www.wavelinc.com >>> tel. 419-562-6405 >>> fax. 419-617-0110 >>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:05 PM, TJ Trout via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >>>> I haven't been keeping real up to date on current generation ptmp >>>> offerings but we have a new site going up and I need to decide pretty >>>> quickly on some equipment. For the guys who have been using both 450 and >>>> epmp do you have any pros and cons ? Any reason to spend the extra money >>>> when epmp seems to have the same if not better performance , sync, etc? >>>> >>>> My gut says 450 is going to be my best long term solution but with all of >>>> the positive epmp feedback it's hard to justify the extra money? >>>> > > > >
