That we have announced, of course.

Of course we also don't announce radios then don't have inventory for 6 months 
either.  We don't even talk roadmap under NDA for things that are less than a 
realistic 6 months out.

FYI Integra does support LAG (or PLA as other vendors call it) and I'd also 
argue 2+0 at $10k less is a lot more attractive than 1+0 with no hardware 
redundancy.  And no software keys.  And a 5 year warranty.

Our 11GHz implementation is coming along very well.  Trust me, the wait will be 
worth it.

Daniel White – Managing Director
SAF North America LLC

Cell:              (303) 746-3590
Skype: danieldwhite
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com 

   
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 2:33 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently
> 
> Last time I looked at SAF Integra it didn't do 1gig in 11ghz on one channel 
> with
> XPIC. Also I don't have to combine the data at the bottom of the tower. Its 
> all
> one radio interface which is much easier for routing. For us those were huge
> requirements. Exalt has done that for a couple of years. PTP820c looks better
> since it will have full QoS control and OAM.
> 
> Matthew Jenkins
> SmarterBroadband
> m...@sbbinc.net
> 530.272.4000
> 
> On 10/29/2014 10:28 AM, Sean Heskett via Af wrote:
> > matt i'd suggest looking at the SAF integra.  You could almost buy 2
> > links for the prices you quoted from the other brands ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af <af@afmug.com
> > <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     All will do 1gbps. I think these are listed in order of price. I
> >     am using Exalt now. Looking heavily at the PTP820c for QoS and OAM
> >     features.
> >
> >     Cambium PTP820c with 80mhz channels, 1024QAM(~$23k)
> >     Exalt ExtremeAir with XPIC and 80mhz channel, 256QAM (~$25k)
> >     Ceragon IP20c, 60mhz channels, 2048QAM (I think this is about
> > $35k?)
> >
> >     Matthew Jenkins
> >     SmarterBroadband
> >     m...@sbbinc.net <mailto:m...@sbbinc.net>
> >     530.272.4000 <tel:530.272.4000>
> >
> >     On 10/28/2014 10:41 PM, TJ Trout via Af wrote:
> >
> >         What's the top 3 fastest single radio's available right now?
> >         I'm assuming it will be 80mhz and 2048qam+?
> >
> >         On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Bill Prince via Af
> >         <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com
> >         <mailto:af@afmug.com>>> wrote:
> >
> >             Or thereabouts.  Our newest link was engineered for -43.
> >         No smoke.
> >
> >             bp
> >
> >             On 10/28/2014 4:37 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
> >
> >                 What do ya engineer it for? Most of the licensed stuff
> >             I've dealt
> >                 with has been engineered to be hotter than -40.
> >
> >
> >
> >                 -----
> >                 Mike Hammett
> >                 Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >             http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >             
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >                 *From: *"Eric Kuhnke via Af" <af@afmug.com
> >             <mailto:af@afmug.com>> <mailto:af@afmug.com
> >             <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
> >                 *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> >             <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
> >                 *Sent: *Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:22:08 PM
> >                 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig
> >             licensed
> >                 radio currently
> >
> >                 yeah, 2048QAM, but what is your fade margin from the
> >             threshold
> >                 required to run at 2048QAM vs. when it will step down
> >             to 256QAM
> >                 and no longer be a 1 Gbps radio?
> >
> >                 If I recall right an IP20C requires an RSSI of
> >             something like
> >                 -57.5 to operate at 2048QAM and will become a 256QAM
> >             radio at -63
> >                 or thereabouts. Not much fade margin. Not something
> >             you can
> >                 reliably predict as a five nines true 1Gbps link
> >             pretending to be
> >                 a fiber patch cable between two routers.
> >
> >                 Unless you're running it at sub-4km distances with
> >             60cm size
> >                 antennas and the normal RSL is -35.0....
> >
> >
> >
> >                 On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 5:40 AM, Caleb Knauer via Af
> >                 <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> >             <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>> wrote:
> >
> >                     We just put up a Ceragon IP20c link last week, 3.5
> >             miles, one
> >                     60Mhz
> >                     frequency pair, 1030Mbps full duplex using
> >             2048QAM, uses two
> >                     cores
> >                     (same frequency) in a single FODU chasis and a
> >             combiner on the
> >                     antenna.  Looks like any other single FODU
> >             install, very
> >                     clean.  Not
> >                     inexpensive however.
> >
> >                     On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af
> >                     <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> >             <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>> wrote:
> >                     > Cambium PTP820c
> >                     > Exalt ExtremeAir
> >                     >
> >                     > Both will give you 1gig in a single radio.
> >                     >
> >                     > Matthew Jenkins
> >                     > SmarterBroadband
> >                     > m...@sbbinc.net <mailto:m...@sbbinc.net>
> >             <mailto:m...@sbbinc.net <mailto:m...@sbbinc.net>>
> >                     > 530.272.4000 <tel:530.272.4000>
> >             <tel:530.272.4000 <tel:530.272.4000>>
> >                     >
> >                     > On 10/27/2014 03:25 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote:
> >                     >>
> >                     >>
> >                     >> Has anyone shopped full Gig licensed links
> >             lately, which
> >                     is the best
> >                     >> bargain?
> >                     >>
> >                     >> *Peter Kranz
> >                     >> *Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
> >                     >> www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.UnwiredLtd.com>
> >             <http://www.UnwiredLtd.com>
> >                     <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
> >                     >> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
> >             <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> <tel:510-868-1614%20x100>
> >                     >> Mobile: 510-207-0000 <tel:510-207-0000>
> >             <tel:510-207-0000 <tel:510-207-0000>>
> >                     >> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
> >             <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com>
> >             <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com>>
> >                     <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
> >             <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com>
> >             <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
> <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com>>>
> >                     >>
> >                     >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

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