Last time I looked at SAF Integra it didn't do 1gig in 11ghz on one channel with XPIC. Also I don't have to combine the data at the bottom of the tower. Its all one radio interface which is much easier for routing. For us those were huge requirements. Exalt has done that for a couple of years. PTP820c looks better since it will have full QoS control and OAM.

Matthew Jenkins
SmarterBroadband
m...@sbbinc.net
530.272.4000

On 10/29/2014 10:28 AM, Sean Heskett via Af wrote:
matt i'd suggest looking at the SAF integra. You could almost buy 2 links for the prices you quoted from the other brands ;-)



On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

    All will do 1gbps. I think these are listed in order of price. I
    am using Exalt now. Looking heavily at the PTP820c for QoS and OAM
    features.

    Cambium PTP820c with 80mhz channels, 1024QAM(~$23k)
    Exalt ExtremeAir with XPIC and 80mhz channel, 256QAM (~$25k)
    Ceragon IP20c, 60mhz channels, 2048QAM (I think this is about $35k?)

    Matthew Jenkins
    SmarterBroadband
    m...@sbbinc.net <mailto:m...@sbbinc.net>
    530.272.4000 <tel:530.272.4000>

    On 10/28/2014 10:41 PM, TJ Trout via Af wrote:

        What's the top 3 fastest single radio's available right now?
        I'm assuming it will be 80mhz and 2048qam+?

        On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Bill Prince via Af
        <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com
        <mailto:af@afmug.com>>> wrote:

Or thereabouts. Our newest link was engineered for -43. No smoke.

            bp

            On 10/28/2014 4:37 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:

                What do ya engineer it for? Most of the licensed stuff
            I've dealt
                with has been engineered to be hotter than -40.



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                *From: *"Eric Kuhnke via Af" <af@afmug.com
            <mailto:af@afmug.com>> <mailto:af@afmug.com
            <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
                *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
            <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
                *Sent: *Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:22:08 PM
                *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig
            licensed
                radio currently

                yeah, 2048QAM, but what is your fade margin from the
            threshold
                required to run at 2048QAM vs. when it will step down
            to 256QAM
                and no longer be a 1 Gbps radio?

                If I recall right an IP20C requires an RSSI of
            something like
                -57.5 to operate at 2048QAM and will become a 256QAM
            radio at -63
                or thereabouts. Not much fade margin. Not something
            you can
                reliably predict as a five nines true 1Gbps link
            pretending to be
                a fiber patch cable between two routers.

                Unless you're running it at sub-4km distances with
            60cm size
                antennas and the normal RSL is -35.0....



                On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 5:40 AM, Caleb Knauer via Af
                <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
            <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>> wrote:

                    We just put up a Ceragon IP20c link last week, 3.5
            miles, one
                    60Mhz
                    frequency pair, 1030Mbps full duplex using
            2048QAM, uses two
                    cores
                    (same frequency) in a single FODU chasis and a
            combiner on the
                    antenna.  Looks like any other single FODU
            install, very
                    clean.  Not
                    inexpensive however.

                    On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Matt Jenkins via Af
                    <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
            <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>> wrote:
                    > Cambium PTP820c
                    > Exalt ExtremeAir
                    >
                    > Both will give you 1gig in a single radio.
                    >
                    > Matthew Jenkins
                    > SmarterBroadband
                    > m...@sbbinc.net <mailto:m...@sbbinc.net>
            <mailto:m...@sbbinc.net <mailto:m...@sbbinc.net>>
                    > 530.272.4000 <tel:530.272.4000>
            <tel:530.272.4000 <tel:530.272.4000>>
                    >
                    > On 10/27/2014 03:25 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote:
                    >>
                    >>
                    >> Has anyone shopped full Gig licensed links
            lately, which
                    is the best
                    >> bargain?
                    >>
                    >> *Peter Kranz
                    >> *Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
                    >> www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.UnwiredLtd.com>
            <http://www.UnwiredLtd.com>
                    <http://www.unwiredltd.com/>
                    >> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
            <tel:510-868-1614%20x100> <tel:510-868-1614%20x100>
                    >> Mobile: 510-207-0000 <tel:510-207-0000>
            <tel:510-207-0000 <tel:510-207-0000>>
                    >> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
            <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com>
            <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com>>
                    <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
            <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com>
            <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com>>>
                    >>
                    >








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