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----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "That One Guy via Af" <af@afmug.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 1:26:10 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] first approved licensed link mounting so we ordered two BRM44510 Nobody had 10' masts in stock So we just ordered some 4" water pipe luckily my buddy told me these masts have fins and a plate welded to them, so we cancelled the pipe but we need to now find the masts again The Rohn PN is KY2065 according to the catalog, but the vendors we have checked with dont have them on hand anybody know of a non rapist vendor that would stock these? we are down to 53 days of a 60 day deadline On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Bill Prince via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: What I'm saying is that with a little creativity, you can replicate many open frame non-penetrating type mounts with unistrut. Unistrut is like an adult's version of an erector set. bp On 10/30/2014 11:34 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: <blockquote> I can put the pipe on the opposing side so the antenna sits above the ballast. Are you saying maybe build a unistrut arm to affix the stabilizer strut to on a tripod mount? On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Bill Prince via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> Not in my opinion. Having the mast in the center gives it the same stability from all win directions. If a big wind is coming from "behind" this might be more "tippy". Besides, you only need to use one mast. You can also build almost anything you want out of unistrut. bp On 10/30/2014 11:10 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote: <blockquote> http://sitepro1.com/resources/pdf/assembly-drawings/RTW-7%20(Assembly).pdf Would this be a better solution than a single vertical so I have something to affix the strut to? On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:06 PM, That One Guy via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> Our wall mounting option for the 4' antenna is limited to the 25g we ran up the side, the antenna will actually be 75 feet up the wall from the first platform I dont think unless we installed a standing platform we would be able to adjust the antenna. I think Im calculating right, its going to take 500lbs ballast if I used a PRM4, but the lead time on those exceeds our timeline so Im looking at the sitepro tripods. We are kind of limited to the non penetrating solution because with that we dont have to have a mother may I in place A penetrating mount we will, and if a board member says structural analysis we are shut down on time. So we are limited to horizontal surface mounts We can get away with small concrete anchors, but we are talking 3/8" x 3" and I just dont see that that would be safe. Where would I look to find the penetrating mount anchoring requirements, I see ballast charts all over, but no anchoring specs. On another note, Ive never dealt with 4' antennas before, apparently this has a strut. How do I attach a strut if I only have the single vertical mast? On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:00 PM, CARL PETERSON via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> At the risk of getting my testicals chopped off, I’d recommend wall mounting if you can. SBWM-412 from Sitepro is $150 and the HWK58 for mounting is ~$30. Throw in 6’ 0f 4-1/2” pipe for $160 and your looking at a solid mount for $340 that takes less time to install then it would take to lug the concrete up to secure a non-pen with a 4-1/2” pipe on it. If you need to use a non-pen, Id use: http://sitepro1.com/resources/pdf/assembly-drawings/TRPD-HD%20(Assembly).pdf with a 4-1/2” pipe. Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707 On Oct 29, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Daniel White via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: <blockquote> That has got to be one of the best e-mails I have read in a long time :-) Commscope makes a nice option for a large non-pen mast – but I’d steer away from anything with less than a 4” OD mast for a 4ft antenna. Rohn makes a similar one, and Baird has a few options. <image001.jpg> Daniel White | Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite E-mail: daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] first approved licensed link mounting I have two goals, mounting the bastard and grounding the bastard If you knew the volume of fecal matter I have had to ea tot get this achieved you would understand my very short fuse about dealing with dickheads like me that I have. I need to first mount this thing. Its likely to be a SAF link, and thats that. Im going to take a moment to say that regardless of what this final project ends up being, if you want one hell of a sales guy to work with, Jerrod from Moonblink( Jarrod Washington [ jarrod.washing...@moonblink.com ]) is the shit, if you badmouth him, I will come to your house, I will castrate you, I will fry your man parts in olive oil, give them a slight garlic and rosemary seasoning and serve them to you over some white rice with a cane vinegar brandy. I float out told this guy that after he did all the work, my bosses would likely flat out price shop his parts list. He didnt blink and kept on doing his thing. If my daughter was old enough, Id marry her to him. In a perfect world, both sites will be non penetrating mounts. One side is 3' the other 4'. The side that wiull have the 4' hast the option of being mounted on a set of 25g we have running up the wall. The problem is the wall mount is currently only secured every 20' with a 2" deep concrete anchor, Im pretty sure this wont be sufficient for a 4' antenna (currently we only mount 2' parabolics to it) We have the option to plow through the wall with plates, but if we go to that expenses we might as well go to a full non pen for a 4" antenna at the top. Any advice on a non pen mount that can support a 4" parabolic? This side we can do pretty much whatever, but still want the smallest footprint. The other side, for non pen, our partner claims to have an 8' x 8' footprint mount, the best I ever specced was 10x10 so Im suspiscious. Both sites are grain elevators. Im looking for the minimum grounding to achieve a respectable level of protection. If you send me an NEC link, you have no value to me, Im not asking because I already know the NEC spec and just want to brag about my testicles. I just want a rough Idea of what it would take to get to a point where with factory spec installation of a Lumina I can meet the minimum ground/bond at an elevator and grow from there. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 </blockquote> -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 </blockquote> -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 </blockquote> </blockquote> -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 </blockquote> </blockquote> -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
