What I'm saying is that with a little creativity, you can replicate many open frame non-penetrating type mounts with unistrut. Unistrut is like an adult's version of an erector set.

bp

On 10/30/2014 11:34 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote:
I can put the pipe on the opposing side so the antenna sits above the ballast.

Are you saying maybe build a unistrut arm to affix the stabilizer strut to on a tripod mount?

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Bill Prince via Af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

    Not in my opinion.  Having the mast in the center gives it the
    same stability from all win directions.  If a big wind is coming
    from "behind" this might be more "tippy".  Besides, you only need
    to use one mast.

    You can also build almost anything you want out of unistrut.

    bp

    On 10/30/2014 11:10 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote:
    http://sitepro1.com/resources/pdf/assembly-drawings/RTW-7%20(Assembly).pdf
    
<http://sitepro1.com/resources/pdf/assembly-drawings/RTW-7%20%28Assembly%29.pdf>

    Would this be a better solution than a single vertical so I have
    something to affix the strut to?

    On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:06 PM, That One Guy via Af
    <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

        Our wall mounting option for the 4' antenna is limited to the
        25g we ran up the side, the antenna will actually be 75 feet
        up the wall from the first platform I dont think unless we
        installed a standing platform we would be able to adjust the
        antenna.

        I think Im calculating right, its going to take 500lbs
        ballast if I used a PRM4, but the lead time on those exceeds
        our timeline so Im looking at the sitepro tripods.

        We are kind of limited to the non penetrating solution
        because with that we dont have to have a mother may I in place

        A penetrating mount we will, and if a board member says
        structural analysis we are shut down on time.

        So we are limited to horizontal surface mounts

        We can get away with small concrete anchors, but we are
        talking 3/8" x 3" and I just dont see that that would be
        safe. Where would I look to find the penetrating mount
        anchoring requirements, I see ballast charts all over, but no
        anchoring specs.



        On another note, Ive never dealt with 4' antennas before,
        apparently this has a strut. How do I attach a strut if I
        only have the single vertical mast?

        On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:00 PM, CARL PETERSON via Af
        <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

            At the risk of getting my testicals chopped off, I’d
            recommend wall mounting if you can. SBWM-412 from Sitepro
            is $150 and the HWK58 for mounting is ~$30. Throw in 6’
            0f 4-1/2” pipe for $160 and your looking at a solid mount
            for $340 that takes less time to install then it would
            take to lug the concrete up to secure a non-pen with a
            4-1/2” pipe on it.  If you need to use a non-pen, Id use:
            
http://sitepro1.com/resources/pdf/assembly-drawings/TRPD-HD%20(Assembly).pdf
            
<http://sitepro1.com/resources/pdf/assembly-drawings/TRPD-HD%20%28Assembly%29.pdf>
 with
            a 4-1/2” pipe.
            Carl Peterson
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            401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
            Baltimore, MD 21202
            (410) 637-3707 <tel:%28410%29%20637-3707>

            On Oct 29, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Daniel White via Af
            <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

            That has got to be one of the best e-mails I have read
            in a long time :-)
            Commscope makes a nice option for a large non-pen mast –
            but I’d steer away from anything with less than a 4” OD
            mast for a 4ft antenna.  Rohn makes a similar one, and
            Baird has a few options.
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            *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]*On Behalf
            Of*That One Guy via Af
            *Sent:*Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:25 AM
            *To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
            *Subject:*[AFMUG] first approved licensed link mounting
            I have two goals, mounting the bastard and grounding the
            bastard
            If you knew the volume of fecal matter I have had to ea
            tot get this achieved you would understand my very short
            fuse about dealing with dickheads like me that I have.
            I need to first mount this thing. Its likely to be a SAF
            link, and thats that.
            Im going to take a moment to say that regardless of what
            this final project ends up being, if you want one hell
            of a sales guy to work with, Jerrod from
            Moonblink(Jarrod Washington
            [jarrod.washing...@moonblink.com
            <mailto:jarrod.washing...@moonblink.com>]) is the shit,
            if you badmouth him, I will come to your house, I will
            castrate you, I will fry your man parts in olive oil,
            give them a slight garlic and rosemary seasoning and
            serve them to you over some white rice with a cane
            vinegar brandy. I float out told this guy that after he
            did all the work, my bosses would likely flat out price
            shop his parts list. He didnt blink and kept on doing
            his thing. If my daughter was old enough, Id marry her
            to him.
            In a perfect world, both sites will be non penetrating
            mounts. One side is 3' the other 4'. The side that wiull
            have the 4' hast the option of being mounted on a set of
            25g we have running up the wall. The problem is the wall
            mount is currently only secured every 20' with a 2" deep
            concrete anchor, Im pretty sure this wont be sufficient
            for a 4' antenna (currently we only mount 2' parabolics
            to it)
            We have the option to plow through the wall with plates,
            but if we go to that expenses we might as well go to a
            full non pen for a 4" antenna at the top.
            Any advice on a non pen mount that can support a 4"
            parabolic? This side we can do pretty much whatever, but
            still want the smallest footprint.
            The other side, for non pen, our partner claims to have
            an 8' x 8' footprint mount, the best I ever specced was
            10x10 so Im suspiscious.
            Both sites are grain elevators. Im looking for the
            minimum grounding to achieve a respectable level of
            protection. If you send me an NEC link, you have no
            value to me, Im not asking because I already know the
            NEC spec and just want to brag about my testicles. I
            just want a rough Idea of what it would take to get to a
            point where with factory spec installation of a Lumina I
            can meet the minimum ground/bond at an elevator and grow
            from there.

            --
            All parts should go together without forcing. You must
            remember that the parts you are reassembling were
            disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them
            together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do
            not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925




-- All parts should go together without forcing. You must
        remember that the parts you are reassembling were
        disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them
        together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
        use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925




-- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
    that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you.
    Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a
    reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance
    manual, 1925




--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925

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