Where are u buying the 28 dollar routers from ? Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 10, 2014, at 11:06 AM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: > > Im not allowed to go to events in public > >> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >> You should join them at the events. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >>> On Nov 10, 2014 11:53 AM, "That One Guy via Af" <af@afmug.com> wrote: >>> I used to despise powercode, stuff was always breaking, but the last year >>> or two they have moved forward to be a pretty solid product. It eliminates >>> a ton of other systems, spreadsheets in particular. The boss loves the >>> billing side of it, I stay out of that. I believe they will do a live demo >>> on your network, no harm, no foul if you dont like it. >>> >>> I dont like that they cant provide alot of specs on server builds and stuff >>> like alot of products do, I would prefer they provide a billing server >>> appliance thats realistic in cost and a virtual appliance you can dump on >>> robust hardware, but those are small potato complaints. If youre a linux >>> guy, then its a moot point. Their support is probably better than alot of >>> companies, even though I complain that they dont drop everything theyre >>> doing to focus directly on me, theyre actually very responsive to issues, >>> usually having a solution, or pathway to a solution within a day or two if >>> its a complex issue. >>> >>> The only actual legitimate complaint I have with them is around events like >>> wispapalooza they shortstaff, but they gotta make that cheddar. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Don't ask Steve anything serious!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> I'm thinking about changing how do u like power code? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 10:10 AM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Powercode is Static DHCP, MAC reservations from a non dynamic pool, if >>>>>> there is no device registered with that mac it pulls from a dynamic pool >>>>>> for each POP and all that traffic is redirected to the powercode web >>>>>> server >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> We have 2 different IP address pools. I had thought about dhcp but I >>>>>>> would like to see the router incase I needed to access it for firmware >>>>>>> upgrades etc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We use swift fox for monitoring and billing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:58 AM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now that DHCP is reliable its DHCP, everything is DHCP that way we can >>>>>>>> move customer IP space at whim. If a customer throws in one of our >>>>>>>> replacement routers we either pill the MAC from the bridge table on >>>>>>>> the SM/AP and update it or watch the DHCP log in the BMU to either >>>>>>>> pull the MAC (if its their personal router) or log into the catch all >>>>>>>> IP theyre handed if its ours to get it and complete the set up >>>>>>>> If powercode would set it up to where the redirect page pulled the IP >>>>>>>> the customer is coming from and compared it to the DHCP log, customers >>>>>>>> could even self provision their own devices, but they say its not >>>>>>>> possible, so it does require a call in to tech support to provision, >>>>>>>> unless they can get on the horn with their router vendor to get the >>>>>>>> WAN MAC, since all the boxes list the wireless or LAN MAC for some >>>>>>>> reason >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Does ur config script set a static ip or dhcp >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:40 AM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> thats the very reason we use the air router >>>>>>>>>> DHCP used to not be reliable through powercode so we needed a way to >>>>>>>>>> ensure that they couldnt reset them and have no service. We just >>>>>>>>>> created a default config with our remote access and the reset button >>>>>>>>>> disabled the techs load in at installation time. anything specific >>>>>>>>>> to the customer is named CHANGEME including the device name, that >>>>>>>>>> way they know what to change and the ones that werent configured >>>>>>>>>> completely are easy to ID. We also leave some of these with the >>>>>>>>>> default config file loaded into them at our retail shop, that way >>>>>>>>>> customers can just pick one up if their personal router is causing >>>>>>>>>> trouble or if our air router fails (which suprisingly for 28 bucks, >>>>>>>>>> they rarely do) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> We don't nat at sm and the tech test speed at Poe I don't allow >>>>>>>>>>> speed tests via wireless and we leave a 3 ft cable on lan side of >>>>>>>>>>> ubnt Poe >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Does the air router allow u to disable reset button? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:19 AM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> are you NAT at the SM? it depends on whether youre bridging or >>>>>>>>>>>> NAT. If youre briddging, like us, throwing the router in saves on >>>>>>>>>>>> support calls. If they opt to use their own router, then all your >>>>>>>>>>>> support needs to do is give them the manufacturers support number, >>>>>>>>>>>> also it eliminates support on wireless issues. We throw in a 28 >>>>>>>>>>>> dolar air router, set the ESSID with a set key that doesnt change, >>>>>>>>>>>> any issue on the wireless on that and we tell them to contect >>>>>>>>>>>> their end device manufacturer and provide them the ESSID and key. >>>>>>>>>>>> we dont give them a personalized key. Ever since we started this, >>>>>>>>>>>> the number of wireless issues we have had to support is zero. We >>>>>>>>>>>> do leave an extra patch cord and dont accept speedtests over >>>>>>>>>>>> wireless. Most people who say everything is wireless dont even >>>>>>>>>>>> realize their laptop has an ethernet connection on it >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af >>>>>>>>>>>>> <af@afmug.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My tech is required to do a speed test on every install and. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now We just go to the power supply and customer does the >>>>>>>>>>>>> rest. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Nov 9, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > FYI, I recommend leaving a spare Ethernet cable plugged into >>>>>>>>>>>>> > the router. I used to insist that people do a speedtest from a >>>>>>>>>>>>> > wired computer, but it's becoming very common for people to say >>>>>>>>>>>>> > everything is WiFi. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Sterling Jacobson via Af >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 11:18 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>> > To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer routers >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > I never did, the SM has enough to control what you need to from >>>>>>>>>>>>> > the provider side. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > I prefer a demarcation at the SM/ONT and let the customer be >>>>>>>>>>>>> > responsible for their side of their network. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > If I had done managed router then I would have gotten double >>>>>>>>>>>>> > the calls for everyones NAT to their Xbox and filtering etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > What this industry needs is a way for the consumer to know for >>>>>>>>>>>>> > themselves if their provider is the network issue, or their >>>>>>>>>>>>> > router. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > I'm working on an app/site for that right now that they can use >>>>>>>>>>>>> > their phone/device to tell them if it's their problem or the >>>>>>>>>>>>> > providers. >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joseph >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Marsh via Af >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:48 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> > To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer routers >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Sm on the side of the house >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Nov 8, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> <af@afmug.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Do you already have a CPE/ONT device at their house/building? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joseph >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Marsh via Af >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:09 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> To: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Subject: [AFMUG] Customer routers >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Doing a new area should I put a managed router at every >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> customer house or business or just let them do their own ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember >>>>>>>>>>>> that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. >>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a >>>>>>>>>>>> reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance >>>>>>>>>>>> manual, 1925 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that >>>>>>>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, >>>>>>>>>> if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all >>>>>>>>>> means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that >>>>>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if >>>>>>>> you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all >>>>>>>> means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the >>>>>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you >>>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do >>>>>> not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the >>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you >>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not >>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 > > > > -- > All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the > parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't > get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a > hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
