...and beer!!!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:11 PM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:

> yeah, and when we get 1 inch, they get three. But they do have cheese.
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>
>> Dude aren't you in Illinois?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 4:03 PM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> you guys get too much snow up there
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Simon Westlake via Af <af@afmug.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  http://www.indeed.com/job/tier-3-technical-support-c4c4abce9d83d26f
>>>>
>>>> Come work for us and solve that problem! We're trying to hire a couple
>>>> more tier 3 support guys right now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  The only actual legitimate complaint I have with them is around
>>>> events like wispapalooza they shortstaff, but they gotta make that cheddar.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Don't ask Steve anything serious!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <af@afmug.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  I'm thinking about changing  how do u like power code?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 10:10 AM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Powercode is Static DHCP, MAC reservations from a non dynamic
>>>>>> pool, if there is no device registered with that mac it pulls from a
>>>>>> dynamic pool for each POP and all that traffic is redirected to the
>>>>>> powercode web server
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <af@afmug.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  We have 2 different IP address pools. I had thought about dhcp
>>>>>>>  but I would like to see the router incase I needed to access it for
>>>>>>> firmware upgrades etc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  We use swift fox for monitoring and billing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:58 AM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Now that DHCP is reliable its DHCP, everything is DHCP that way
>>>>>>> we can move customer IP space at whim. If a customer throws in one of 
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> replacement routers we either pill the MAC from the bridge table on the
>>>>>>> SM/AP and update it or watch the DHCP log in the BMU to either pull the 
>>>>>>> MAC
>>>>>>> (if its their personal router) or log into the catch all IP theyre 
>>>>>>> handed
>>>>>>> if its ours to get it and complete the set up
>>>>>>> If powercode would set it up to where the redirect page pulled the
>>>>>>> IP the customer is coming from and compared it to the DHCP log, 
>>>>>>> customers
>>>>>>> could even self provision their own devices, but they say its not 
>>>>>>> possible,
>>>>>>> so it does require a call in to tech support to provision, unless they 
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> get on the horn with their router vendor to get the WAN MAC, since all 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> boxes list the wireless or LAN MAC for some reason
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <af@afmug.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Does ur config script set a static ip or dhcp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:40 AM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   thats the very reason we use the air router
>>>>>>>> DHCP used to not be reliable through powercode so we needed a way
>>>>>>>> to ensure that they couldnt reset them and have no service. We just 
>>>>>>>> created
>>>>>>>> a default config with our remote access and the reset button disabled 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> techs load in at installation time. anything specific to the customer 
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> named CHANGEME including the device name, that way they know what to 
>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>> and the ones that werent configured completely are easy to ID. We also
>>>>>>>> leave some of these with the default config file loaded into them at 
>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>> retail shop, that way customers can just pick one up if their personal
>>>>>>>> router is causing trouble or if our air router fails (which 
>>>>>>>> suprisingly for
>>>>>>>> 28 bucks, they rarely do)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <af@afmug.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  We don't nat at sm and the tech test speed at Poe I don't allow
>>>>>>>>> speed tests via wireless  and we leave a 3 ft cable on lan side of 
>>>>>>>>> ubnt Poe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Does the air router allow u to disable reset button?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:19 AM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   are you NAT at the SM? it depends on whether youre bridging or
>>>>>>>>> NAT. If youre briddging, like us, throwing the router in saves on 
>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>> calls. If they opt to use their own router, then all your support 
>>>>>>>>> needs to
>>>>>>>>> do is give them the manufacturers support number, also it eliminates
>>>>>>>>> support on wireless issues. We throw in a 28 dolar air router, set the
>>>>>>>>> ESSID with a set key that doesnt change, any issue on the wireless on 
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> and we tell them to contect their end device manufacturer and provide 
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> the ESSID and key. we dont give them a personalized key. Ever since we
>>>>>>>>> started this, the number of wireless issues we have had to support is 
>>>>>>>>> zero.
>>>>>>>>> We do leave an extra patch cord and dont accept speedtests over 
>>>>>>>>> wireless.
>>>>>>>>> Most people who say everything is wireless dont even realize their 
>>>>>>>>> laptop
>>>>>>>>> has an ethernet connection on it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Joseph Marsh via Af <af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My tech is required to do a speed test on every install and.
>>>>>>>>>> Right now We just go to the power supply and customer does the rest.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  > On Nov 9, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af <af@afmug.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > FYI, I recommend leaving a spare Ethernet cable plugged into
>>>>>>>>>> the router.  I used to insist that people do a speedtest from a wired
>>>>>>>>>> computer, but it's becoming very common for people to say everything 
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> WiFi.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Sterling Jacobson via Af
>>>>>>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 11:18 AM
>>>>>>>>>>  > To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer routers
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > I never did, the SM has enough to control what you need to from
>>>>>>>>>> the provider side.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > I prefer a demarcation at the SM/ONT and let the customer be
>>>>>>>>>> responsible for their side of their network.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > If I had done managed router then I would have gotten double
>>>>>>>>>> the calls for everyones NAT to their Xbox and filtering etc.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > What this industry needs is a way for the consumer to know for
>>>>>>>>>> themselves if their provider is the network issue, or their router.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > I'm working on an app/site for that right now that they can use
>>>>>>>>>> their phone/device to tell them if it's their problem or the 
>>>>>>>>>> providers.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
>>>>>>>>>> Marsh via Af
>>>>>>>>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>> > To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer routers
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Sm on the side of the house
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> On Nov 8, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af <
>>>>>>>>>> af@afmug.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Do you already have a CPE/ONT device at their house/building?
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
>>>>>>>>>> Marsh via Af
>>>>>>>>>> >> Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 5:09 PM
>>>>>>>>>> >> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>> >> Subject: [AFMUG] Customer routers
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Doing a new area should I put a managed router at every
>>>>>>>>>> customer house or business or just let them do their own ?
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
>>>>>>>>> that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. 
>>>>>>>>> Therefore, if
>>>>>>>>> you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
>>>>>>>>> means, do
>>>>>>>>> not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
>>>>>>>> that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. 
>>>>>>>> Therefore, if
>>>>>>>> you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
>>>>>>>> means, do
>>>>>>>> not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
>>>>>>> that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. 
>>>>>>> Therefore, if
>>>>>>> you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
>>>>>>> means, do
>>>>>>> not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
>>>>>> that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, 
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, 
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>>  All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
>>>> the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Simon Westlake
>>>> Powercode - The smart choice in ISP billing and OSS
>>>> powercode.com
>>>> P: 920-351-1010
>>>> E: si...@powercode.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
>>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
>

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