IIRC it was Kris that suggested the paper ream trick.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Daniel White via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:

> Nothing wrong with the advice given here.
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> FYI we do sell a test kit as well that comes with waveguide flanges and
> attenuators, but it is pretty spendy if you’re not doing these often.
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> A few reams of copy paper should work…. You may want to back of the TX
> power until you deploy them.
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> Also, keep ACM off while doing alignment.  Make sure to enable it if your
> licensed for it once the link is aligned.
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett via
> Af
> *Sent:* Friday, December 5, 2014 9:49 AM
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> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup
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> I have not seen her post any cat videos, but maybe she has aliases I don't
> know of.
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> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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> *From: *"Josh Luthman via Af" <af@afmug.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, December 5, 2014 10:46:22 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup
>
> It's my go to frequency coordinator.  There are others like Comsearch
> (Tim).
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> http://www.intelpath.com/
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> As far as I know she doesn't do any cat videos.
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> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:44 AM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
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> What do you mean? I assume the vendor we paid to do the FCC process
> handled that based on what the FCC says, we had to do a different polarity
> because there is another 11ghz link in a similar path. What does this liz
> lady do, is she the one who puts up all the cat videos on the internet? Im
> always suspicious of women named liz.
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> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>
> Who is responsible for figuring out your frequencies?  While a vendor can
> do it, I'd suggest calling Liz @ IntelPath.
>
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>
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> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:35 AM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>
> I know the vendor sent me documentation on cabling/grounding, but I cant
> find it anywhere. We are using the SAF POE injector/splitter. Both
> components have surge suppression, but we also have an ALPU surge
> suppressor and a DC surge suppressor, Im not sure where in the mix these
> go, top/bottom etc.
>
>
>
> We did the expedited FCC approval, but dont have a PCN, does that come
> directly to us or to the vendor that did it and is relayed to us. I dont
> recall providing our FRN, so where will this license be applied? Is there a
> way to get it into our FRN portal (the one for managing the 3.65 stuff) or
> is that a separate type of license?
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>
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> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
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> 35 miles since we're in 'merica.
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> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Hardy, Tim via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>
> Also, make sure that FCC Applications have been filed before turning these
> on in the field (even for alignment or testing).  The PCN does not provide
> authorization to transmit, but you can operate under Conditional Authority
> as long as the FCC Applications have been accepted for filing at the FCC,
> the applications did not request a waiver, you are not located in a quiet
> zone, and you are not located within 56.3 kilometers of an international
> border.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard via
> Af
> *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 11:07 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup
>
>
>
> Yes, you are going to want to have the PCN in hand for configuring to make
> sure you get frequencies on the right side, TX power, polarity and all that
> right... I would think it would be pretty safe to assume you're licensed
> for full power since you had to go with 4' dishes, but I'd still want to
> check what the PCN says.
>
> I don't remember running into any particular problems setting ours up, but
> it's been a few years.
>
> I do not recommend strapping the dish to your back to carry it up the
> tower...
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>
> *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jeremy via Af [af@afmug.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 10:01 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup
>
> Also, all of the details, including transmit power, should be on the PCN.
> You should have the PCN in hand.  If you don't I would print it out.  You
> should also have a path analysis with expected signal strengths, and those
> come in really handy when you are aligning.  If you are not where the path
> calc says that you should be then you could be on a side lobe
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I haven't used SAF before but I generally set the radios across the room
> from each other (with no dish) to test the link.  They will link up without
> being next to each other.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:42 AM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
>
> We havent used SAF or done licensed before
>
>
>
> Im getting ready to bench configure this link, are there any caveats to it?
>
>  As I understand it from the manual, these ship with transmit turned off,
> so powering them up wont hurt anything, I just set them side by side with
> the flanges facing upward and turn the power on to the minimum tx power,
> this wont hurt them to be transmitting with no antenna load attached? If I
> leave them on for an extended timeframe will it harm them in this fashion?
>
>
>
> Im assuming the license gives use permission to install these at maximum
> radio power? we dont have anything in hand from FCC so I dont know, all I
> know is we have approval on the link.
>
>
>
> Any gotchas to setting these up or installing them, beyond figuring out
> how to get a 4 foot antenna to the top of the grain elevator without
> denting it
>
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> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
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> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
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> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
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