If you are just testing functionality, just lay them on their backs pointed at
the ceiling. No need to go to the effort of attenuators. If you are worried
about it, lay a thick book over the waveguide opening.
From: Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 12:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup
Where did I put that attenuation kit...screw it grab the paper we never use.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Daniel White via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
Yep… because we had to come up with a solution when no one wanted to buy the
$600 kits to do it the proper way ;-)
Daniel White | Managing Director
SAF North America LLC
Cell:
(303) 746-3590
Skype:
danieldwhite
E-mail:
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 10:32 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup
>Of course in house we only use the proper waveguide + attenuators kit.
Of course there's a reason you're comfortable with the ream attenuation...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Daniel White via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
He got it from our support team.
Works fine… 2 reams if you have the TX power set low works… but at full TX
power you want more attenuation… most like 4-6 reams.
Of course in house we only use the proper waveguide + attenuators kit.
Daniel White | Managing Director
SAF North America LLC
Cell:
(303) 746-3590
Skype:
danieldwhite
E-mail:
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 9:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup
IIRC it was Kris that suggested the paper ream trick.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Daniel White via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
Nothing wrong with the advice given here.
FYI we do sell a test kit as well that comes with waveguide flanges and
attenuators, but it is pretty spendy if you’re not doing these often.
A few reams of copy paper should work…. You may want to back of the TX
power until you deploy them.
Also, keep ACM off while doing alignment. Make sure to enable it if your
licensed for it once the link is aligned.
Daniel White | Managing Director
SAF North America LLC
Cell:
(303) 746-3590
Skype:
danieldwhite
E-mail:
daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 9:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup
I have not seen her post any cat videos, but maybe she has aliases I
don't know of.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "Josh Luthman via Af" <af@afmug.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 10:46:22 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup
It's my go to frequency coordinator. There are others like Comsearch
(Tim).
http://www.intelpath.com/
As far as I know she doesn't do any cat videos.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:44 AM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:
What do you mean? I assume the vendor we paid to do the FCC process
handled that based on what the FCC says, we had to do a different polarity
because there is another 11ghz link in a similar path. What does this liz lady
do, is she the one who puts up all the cat videos on the internet? Im always
suspicious of women named liz.
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com>
wrote:
Who is responsible for figuring out your frequencies? While a vendor
can do it, I'd suggest calling Liz @ IntelPath.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:35 AM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com>
wrote:
I know the vendor sent me documentation on cabling/grounding, but I
cant find it anywhere. We are using the SAF POE injector/splitter. Both
components have surge suppression, but we also have an ALPU surge suppressor
and a DC surge suppressor, Im not sure where in the mix these go, top/bottom
etc.
We did the expedited FCC approval, but dont have a PCN, does that
come directly to us or to the vendor that did it and is relayed to us. I dont
recall providing our FRN, so where will this license be applied? Is there a way
to get it into our FRN portal (the one for managing the 3.65 stuff) or is that
a separate type of license?
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com>
wrote:
35 miles since we're in 'merica.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Hardy, Tim via Af <af@afmug.com>
wrote:
Also, make sure that FCC Applications have been filed before
turning these on in the field (even for alignment or testing). The PCN does
not provide authorization to transmit, but you can operate under Conditional
Authority as long as the FCC Applications have been accepted for filing at the
FCC, the applications did not request a waiver, you are not located in a quiet
zone, and you are not located within 56.3 kilometers of an international border.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew
Howard via Af
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:07 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup
Yes, you are going to want to have the PCN in hand for
configuring to make sure you get frequencies on the right side, TX power,
polarity and all that right... I would think it would be pretty safe to assume
you're licensed for full power since you had to go with 4' dishes, but I'd
still want to check what the PCN says.
I don't remember running into any particular problems setting
ours up, but it's been a few years.
I do not recommend strapping the dish to your back to carry it
up the tower...
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From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Jeremy via Af
[af@afmug.com]
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 10:01 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup
Also, all of the details, including transmit power, should be
on the PCN. You should have the PCN in hand. If you don't I would print it
out. You should also have a path analysis with expected signal strengths, and
those come in really handy when you are aligning. If you are not where the
path calc says that you should be then you could be on a side lobe
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I haven't used SAF before but I generally set the radios across
the room from each other (with no dish) to test the link. They will link up
without being next to each other.
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:42 AM, That One Guy via Af
<af@afmug.com> wrote:
We havent used SAF or done licensed before
Im getting ready to bench configure this link, are there any
caveats to it?
As I understand it from the manual, these ship with transmit
turned off, so powering them up wont hurt anything, I just set them side by
side with the flanges facing upward and turn the power on to the minimum tx
power, this wont hurt them to be transmitting with no antenna load attached? If
I leave them on for an extended timeframe will it harm them in this fashion?
Im assuming the license gives use permission to install these
at maximum radio power? we dont have anything in hand from FCC so I dont know,
all I know is we have approval on the link.
Any gotchas to setting these up or installing them, beyond
figuring out how to get a 4 foot antenna to the top of the grain elevator
without denting it
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use
a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember
that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use
a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use
a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
