He got it from our support team.
Works fine… 2 reams if you have the TX power set low works… but at full TX power you want more attenuation… most like 4-6 reams. Of course in house we only use the proper waveguide + attenuators kit. Daniel White | Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite E-mail: <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 9:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup IIRC it was Kris that suggested the paper ream trick. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Daniel White via Af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote: Nothing wrong with the advice given here. FYI we do sell a test kit as well that comes with waveguide flanges and attenuators, but it is pretty spendy if you’re not doing these often. A few reams of copy paper should work…. You may want to back of the TX power until you deploy them. Also, keep ACM off while doing alignment. Make sure to enable it if your licensed for it once the link is aligned. Daniel White | Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: (303) 746-3590 <tel:%28303%29%20746-3590> Skype: danieldwhite E-mail: <mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 9:49 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup I have not seen her post any cat videos, but maybe she has aliases I don't know of. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _____ From: "Josh Luthman via Af" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 10:46:22 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup It's my go to frequency coordinator. There are others like Comsearch (Tim). http://www.intelpath.com/ As far as I know she doesn't do any cat videos. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:44 AM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote: What do you mean? I assume the vendor we paid to do the FCC process handled that based on what the FCC says, we had to do a different polarity because there is another 11ghz link in a similar path. What does this liz lady do, is she the one who puts up all the cat videos on the internet? Im always suspicious of women named liz. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote: Who is responsible for figuring out your frequencies? While a vendor can do it, I'd suggest calling Liz @ IntelPath. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:35 AM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote: I know the vendor sent me documentation on cabling/grounding, but I cant find it anywhere. We are using the SAF POE injector/splitter. Both components have surge suppression, but we also have an ALPU surge suppressor and a DC surge suppressor, Im not sure where in the mix these go, top/bottom etc. We did the expedited FCC approval, but dont have a PCN, does that come directly to us or to the vendor that did it and is relayed to us. I dont recall providing our FRN, so where will this license be applied? Is there a way to get it into our FRN portal (the one for managing the 3.65 stuff) or is that a separate type of license? On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote: 35 miles since we're in 'merica. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Hardy, Tim via Af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote: Also, make sure that FCC Applications have been filed before turning these on in the field (even for alignment or testing). The PCN does not provide authorization to transmit, but you can operate under Conditional Authority as long as the FCC Applications have been accepted for filing at the FCC, the applications did not request a waiver, you are not located in a quiet zone, and you are not located within 56.3 kilometers of an international border. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard via Af Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:07 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup Yes, you are going to want to have the PCN in hand for configuring to make sure you get frequencies on the right side, TX power, polarity and all that right... I would think it would be pretty safe to assume you're licensed for full power since you had to go with 4' dishes, but I'd still want to check what the PCN says. I don't remember running into any particular problems setting ours up, but it's been a few years. I do not recommend strapping the dish to your back to carry it up the tower... _____ From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] on behalf of Jeremy via Af [af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> ] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 10:01 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF CFIP Lumina 11ghz setup Also, all of the details, including transmit power, should be on the PCN. You should have the PCN in hand. If you don't I would print it out. You should also have a path analysis with expected signal strengths, and those come in really handy when you are aligning. If you are not where the path calc says that you should be then you could be on a side lobe On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com <mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com> > wrote: I haven't used SAF before but I generally set the radios across the room from each other (with no dish) to test the link. They will link up without being next to each other. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:42 AM, That One Guy via Af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > wrote: We havent used SAF or done licensed before Im getting ready to bench configure this link, are there any caveats to it? As I understand it from the manual, these ship with transmit turned off, so powering them up wont hurt anything, I just set them side by side with the flanges facing upward and turn the power on to the minimum tx power, this wont hurt them to be transmitting with no antenna load attached? If I leave them on for an extended timeframe will it harm them in this fashion? Im assuming the license gives use permission to install these at maximum radio power? we dont have anything in hand from FCC so I dont know, all I know is we have approval on the link. Any gotchas to setting these up or installing them, beyond figuring out how to get a 4 foot antenna to the top of the grain elevator without denting it -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
