In TX they have to have a specific sign with specific wording otherwise it is invalid, although a business is treated much like a home. If they post a no weapons sign, it is probably in your best interest to either not carry inside or not patronize the business.
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: > Do you have to obey that sign? In Illinois you do, but in other states, > they serve no legal purpose. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"James Howard via Af" <af@afmug.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Friday, December 5, 2014 1:54:44 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Positions Available > > I agree and don’t personally think open carry is a very good idea > typically. I just had a conversation with the night manager at the local > grocery store when I stopped in for something (my wife tends to stop there > more than I do) and they had very prominent “no weapons allowed in store” > on the doors. I told him they’re basically announcing to criminals that > there won’t be anyone in their store with a weapon to defend against a > robbery, plus they make themselves liable for my safety by not allowing me > to protect myself. Anyway, his response was that if they’re robbed they’re > supposed to hit the panic button and give the robbers anything they want. > I asked him what they do if the robber decides to start shooting people. > He says “wait for the police”. Nice….. > > > > I agree with Chuck about there being no bright lines. The fact that this > police chief said that this was their policy if they see anyone carrying a > gun, not doing anything illegal is what I have a problem with. > > > > Josh you probably wouldn’t like him but you’d probably like Sheriff David > Clarke. He actually wrote a letter to congress apologizing for what this > guy said when he testified before a congressional subcommittee about gun > control. He pointed out that the police chief is appointed and doesn’t > answer to or speak for the people. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds via > Af > *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 1:27 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Positions Available > > > > If you're going to carry (and I do), carry concealed as possible. Here in > Alaska there is concealed carry without a license (which is *awesome* > btw). You'd be amazed at how much nicer it makes people. > > That said, walking around with a visable piece is just asking for > trouble. It gives you quick access to the weapon, but removes the element > of surprise. It also can make you a target if somebody wants your weapon to > commit a crime. > > josh reynolds :: chief information officer > > spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com > > On 12/05/2014 10:23 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: > > It is all how you “carry” a weapon. Holstered weapons should not be a > reason for a takedown. Pulling it out and pointing it around is a > different thing. > > > > Deer rifle slung across your back during hunting season is one thing. > Deer rifle being use as a spotting scope around people is a different > thing... > > > > And so on. > > 50 shades of gray. > > No bright lines in my opinion. > > > > *From:* Josh Reynolds via Af <af@afmug.com> > > *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 12:13 PM > > *To:* af@afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Positions Available > > > > There is a very prominent "come and take them" sticker on the back of my > jeep, right next to a sergeant rank sticker. > > I don't think I'd like that guy. > > josh reynolds :: chief information officer > > spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com > > On 12/05/2014 08:51 AM, James Howard via Af wrote: > > So now I was interested in who he is. I disagree about him being cool. > Here’s a quote from him. Keep in mind that in Wisconsin we’ve had an “open > carry” law for years. It’s legal to carry a firearm (assuming you are of > legal age and aren’t a felon). There are lots of other quotes from him as > well but this shows his regard for the law IMO. > > > > My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the > streets of Milwaukee, we’ll put them on the ground, take the gun away and > then decide whether you have a right to carry it. . . . It’s irresponsible > to send a message to them that if they just carry it openly no one can > bother them. > > > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *James Howard via Af > *Sent:* Friday, December 05, 2014 11:39 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Positions Available > > > > We never hear anything about him here in Wisconsin. I actually had to > look up who he is. I see that he had a 100% no confidence vote from the > police union but was backed by Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett recently (being > backed by Tom Barrett isn’t necessarily a good thing IMO). Oh…. He’s the > one that was on his cell phone during a meeting. 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