Well agreed on that latter part.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cameron Crum via Af" <af@afmug.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 9:17:33 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Positions Available In TX they have to have a specific sign with specific wording otherwise it is invalid, although a business is treated much like a home. If they post a no weapons sign, it is probably in your best interest to either not carry inside or not patronize the business. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Mike Hammett via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: Do you have to obey that sign? In Illinois you do, but in other states, they serve no legal purpose. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "James Howard via Af" < af@afmug.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 1:54:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Positions Available I agree and don’t personally think open carry is a very good idea typically. I just had a conversation with the night manager at the local grocery store when I stopped in for something (my wife tends to stop there more than I do) and they had very prominent “no weapons allowed in store” on the doors. I told him they’re basically announcing to criminals that there won’t be anyone in their store with a weapon to defend against a robbery, plus they make themselves liable for my safety by not allowing me to protect myself. Anyway, his response was that if they’re robbed they’re supposed to hit the panic button and give the robbers anything they want. I asked him what they do if the robber decides to start shooting people. He says “wait for the police”. Nice….. I agree with Chuck about there being no bright lines. The fact that this police chief said that this was their policy if they see anyone carrying a gun, not doing anything illegal is what I have a problem with. Josh you probably wouldn’t like him but you’d probably like Sheriff David Clarke. He actually wrote a letter to congress apologizing for what this guy said when he testified before a congressional subcommittee about gun control. He pointed out that the police chief is appointed and doesn’t answer to or speak for the people. From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 1:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Positions Available If you're going to carry (and I do), carry concealed as possible. Here in Alaska there is concealed carry witho ut a license (which is *awesome* btw). You'd be amazed at how much nicer it makes people. That said, walking around with a visable piece is just asking for trouble. It gives you quick access to the weapon, but removes the element of surprise. It also can make you a target if somebody wants your weapon to commit a crime. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/05/2014 10:23 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote: <blockquote> It is all how you “carry” a weapon. Holstered weapons should not be a reason for a takedown. Pulling it out and pointing it around is a different thing. Deer rifle slung across your back during hunting season is one thing. Deer rifle being use as a spotting scope around people is a different thing... And so on. 50 shades of gray. No bright lines in my opinion. From: Josh Reynolds via Af Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 12:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Positions Available There is a very prominent "come and take them" sticker on the back of my jeep, right next to a sergeant rank sticker. I don't think I'd like that guy. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/05/2014 08:51 AM, James Howard via Af wrote: <blockquote> So now I was interested in who he is. I disagree about him being cool. Here’s a quote from him. Keep in mind that in Wisconsin we’ve had an “open carry” law for years. It’s legal to carry a firearm (assuming you are of legal age and aren’t a felon). There are lots of other quotes from him as well but this shows his regard for the law IMO. My message to my troops is if you see anybody carrying a gun on the streets of Milwaukee, we’ll put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide whether you have a right to carry it. . . . It’s irresponsible to send a message to them that if they just carry it openly no one can bother them. From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of James Howard via Af Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Positions Available We never hear anything about him here in Wisconsin. I actually had to look up who he is. I see that he had a 100% no confidence vote from the police union but was backed by Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett recently (being backed by Tom Barrett isn’t necessarily a good thing IMO). Oh…. He’s the one that was on his cell phone during a meeting. I didn’t realize that was in Milwaukee. From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of That One Guy via Af Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 11:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Positions Available Hes cool too, but Im talking about Edward Flynn On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:19 AM, James Howard via Af < af@afmug.com > wrote: I’m guessing you’re thinking of the Milwaukee County Sheriff, David Clarke. 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