Sure, if it was broadcast television. This doesn’t necessarily apply to premium 
cable channels and movies.
Source: some guy at the grocery store.

Chris Wright
Velociter Wireless<http://www.velociter.net/>

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Conlin via Af
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4Know.

Didn’t the Betamax case make it very clear that home recording of shows for 
later personal use viewing is not a copyright infringement and is 100% legal?  
I have always wondered why the DCMA, the broadcast flag, and related home 
recording limitations are not illegal.  Are they not infringing on our fair use 
of copyright material?

PC
Blaze Broadband



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4Know.

A quick Google search comes up with Audials and Playlater.  It does not appear 
to be rocket science.

From: Jason McKemie via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 10:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4Know.

I'd think if someone could figure out a way to get the movies from RAM, they 
could also figure out a way to capture them from a stream.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Travis Johnson via Af 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
Because then people could "save" the movies in RAM, and someone would figure 
out a way to be able to download them and put them on the Internet for free.

It's a licensing issue... that's why "streaming" is OK.

Travis
On 12/9/2014 7:00 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
That 187MB translates to only about 11.25 GB per hour.  Why not stick in a 32GB 
memory and be done?  That would be almost 3 hours of buffer.


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On 12/9/2014 4:50 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote:
It's really too bad that the devices that support all these streaming services 
can't have a larger buffer. I'm sure it's part of their licensing deals, but if 
they could buffer 60 seconds of stream (at any quality), they would have much 
fewer support calls for streaming issues, etc.

Using Netflix's 25Mbps for 4k, that works out to 187.5MB of storage space. At 
current RAM prices, you can buy a 256MB module for $15 full retail... so places 
like Samsung can probably buy them in quantity for less than $2. Seems like it 
would be worth it to pay an extra $10 for a TV/DVD/PS4/Wii-U device that could 
handle 60 seconds of video.

Travis
On 12/9/2014 5:34 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:
That’s pretty cool.

You can do 4k direct from Youtube.

Several of the ones I’ve tested are sustained around 20-30Mbps.

But on my network it tends to burst to 90Mbps then sit around for a while, then 
burst back to 90Mbps.

I think the 4k will require a lot of optimizations before it works on the built 
in TV’s.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.

Lovely

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering via Af
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming 4K now.

http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-starts-4k-uhd-streams/

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