While there is some truth to this, any way you look at it...it is tough to align/ensure good performance. From a support perspective it would be very tough...
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: > I know Ben as an "official" ubnt person is too diplomatic to say this, but > the problem with alignment, separation and other site engineering problems > is because anyone with a credit card can buy a ubiquiti link... The super > user friendly documentation and GUI on the http interface make it easy for > people who barely know any networking tech or RF to attempting setting up a > PTP link. > > If you sold a connectorized AF5 and treated it like a part 101 product, > for sales only to real companies through a different channel, it would be > easier to guarantee success. > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Ben Moore via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: > >> We have looked at this, but alignment would be a real issue (and ensuring >> proper separation, etc...)...We are still kicking around some different >> options. Though we are getting a lot of good feedback already on long >> links with AF5. >> >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >> >>> I would like a pro grade AF5 connectorized, for use with a pair of the >>> 3' Jirous high performance antennas. Each link would need 4 dishes but >>> you'd be able to go a lot further than the current af5 antenna size. >>> On Dec 10, 2014 10:05 PM, "Mathew Howard via Af" <af@afmug.com> wrote: >>> >>>> PtMP based on the airfiber in 3.65ghz would seem like a good fit, >>>> with the new rules that are (hopefully) coming... >>>> >>>> licensed also seems like an obvious place to go with airfiber. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Josh Reynolds via Af [ >>>> af@afmug.com] >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:42 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>> >>>> I'd be incredibly surprised if they didn't do a ptmp. >>>> >>>> Not sure a revamped 24GHz is in consideration when there's so many >>>> other bands they could release equipment for. >>>> >>>> Maybe licensed? Hrmmmm... >>>> >>>> One can hope, right? >>>> >>>> josh reynolds :: chief information officer >>>> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com >>>> >>>> On 12/10/2014 08:19 PM, Colin Stanners via Af wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm sure they'll do a 24ghz AF 2/Duo/Super/Ultra with 1024QAM. In the >>>> 100mhz channels both ways that'll allow around 1280mbit FD - so a 2.5gbit >>>> backhaul... I'm assuming 3.65 will come as well. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'd guess there's going to be... a least 3 AirFiber products >>>>> released in the next 12-18 months. >>>>> >>>>> If not sooner. >>>>> >>>>> Now... what would those be? >>>>> >>>>> Hrmmmmmmmmm..... >>>>> >>>>> josh reynolds :: chief information officer >>>>> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com >>>>> >>>>> On 12/10/2014 08:07 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I don’t know what you are talking about. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rory >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds via Af >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:05 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm sure that AirFiber team (which they seem to keep expanding) is >>>>> silently sitting in their own little corner in Chicago doing nothing. >>>>> >>>>> :P >>>>> >>>>> josh reynolds :: chief information officer >>>>> >>>>> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com >>>>> >>>>> On 12/10/2014 07:48 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think the ePMP is going to run into the same problem all the >>>>> 802.11ac vendors are seeing with the new OOBE rules. The 450 is able to >>>>> provide a better performance within the new environment so there will >>>>> still >>>>> be a differentiator. The only question if it’s worth the difference. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rory >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt via Af >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:45 PM >>>>> *To:* Josh Luthman via Af >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> .AC is an upgrade to .N. Cambium has the choice to use it or not. >>>>> Others do. epmp competes with 450 right now but helps to keep customers >>>>> and >>>>> applications where 450 does not meet the price point. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Von:* Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 11. Dezember 2014 04:00 >>>>> *An:* Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> An .AC ePMP would be incredible - but the issue is whether Cambium >>>>> would be >>>>> fearful of it competing too much with the 450. What does a company do >>>>> when >>>>> it has 2 products that are too good, and the cheaper one starts to >>>>> outshine >>>>> the more expensive one in the most often used benchmark? (mbps - even >>>>> .AC >>>>> ePMP is unlikely to beat 450 in scalability / latency / etc). >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Stefan Englhardt via Af <af@afmug.com >>>>> > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > The answer is to release an epmp1000-ac. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > *Von:* Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>> > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 11. Dezember 2014 01:39 >>>>> > *An:* Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>> > >>>>> > I hope Cambium is listing on this point. >>>>> > >>>>> > Get rid of speed license and make it as unlimited radios at 10 meg >>>>> price >>>>> > point. >>>>> > >>>>> > They are about to have more competition from lot of other vendors >>>>> too. >>>>> > >>>>> > Tushar >>>>> > >>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] On >>>>> Behalf Of Peter Kranz via Af >>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:10 PM >>>>> > To: af@afmug.com >>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>>> > >>>>> > > Yes no maybe. >>>>> > >>>>> > I think this is good news actually, as it is sure to light the >>>>> competitive >>>>> > fire under Cambium to get to feature parity and get rid of speed >>>>> licenses. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >
