I guess what I meant is that the odds of success are much greater if the alignment is done by personnel who are accustomed to aiming $20,000 Bridgewave, Exalt and similar radios with voltmeters.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Ben Moore via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: > While there is some truth to this, any way you look at it...it is tough to > align/ensure good performance. From a support perspective it would be very > tough... > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: > >> I know Ben as an "official" ubnt person is too diplomatic to say this, >> but the problem with alignment, separation and other site engineering >> problems is because anyone with a credit card can buy a ubiquiti link... >> The super user friendly documentation and GUI on the http interface make it >> easy for people who barely know any networking tech or RF to attempting >> setting up a PTP link. >> >> If you sold a connectorized AF5 and treated it like a part 101 product, >> for sales only to real companies through a different channel, it would be >> easier to guarantee success. >> >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Ben Moore via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >> >>> We have looked at this, but alignment would be a real issue (and >>> ensuring proper separation, etc...)...We are still kicking around some >>> different options. Though we are getting a lot of good feedback already on >>> long links with AF5. >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af <af@afmug.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I would like a pro grade AF5 connectorized, for use with a pair of the >>>> 3' Jirous high performance antennas. Each link would need 4 dishes but >>>> you'd be able to go a lot further than the current af5 antenna size. >>>> On Dec 10, 2014 10:05 PM, "Mathew Howard via Af" <af@afmug.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> PtMP based on the airfiber in 3.65ghz would seem like a good fit, >>>>> with the new rules that are (hopefully) coming... >>>>> >>>>> licensed also seems like an obvious place to go with airfiber. >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Josh Reynolds via Af [ >>>>> af@afmug.com] >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:42 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>>> >>>>> I'd be incredibly surprised if they didn't do a ptmp. >>>>> >>>>> Not sure a revamped 24GHz is in consideration when there's so many >>>>> other bands they could release equipment for. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe licensed? Hrmmmm... >>>>> >>>>> One can hope, right? >>>>> >>>>> josh reynolds :: chief information officer >>>>> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com >>>>> >>>>> On 12/10/2014 08:19 PM, Colin Stanners via Af wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm sure they'll do a 24ghz AF 2/Duo/Super/Ultra with 1024QAM. In the >>>>> 100mhz channels both ways that'll allow around 1280mbit FD - so a 2.5gbit >>>>> backhaul... I'm assuming 3.65 will come as well. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'd guess there's going to be... a least 3 AirFiber products >>>>>> released in the next 12-18 months. >>>>>> >>>>>> If not sooner. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now... what would those be? >>>>>> >>>>>> Hrmmmmmmmmm..... >>>>>> >>>>>> josh reynolds :: chief information officer >>>>>> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/10/2014 08:07 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I don’t know what you are talking about. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Rory >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >>>>>> Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds via Af >>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:05 PM >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm sure that AirFiber team (which they seem to keep expanding) is >>>>>> silently sitting in their own little corner in Chicago doing nothing. >>>>>> >>>>>> :P >>>>>> >>>>>> josh reynolds :: chief information officer >>>>>> >>>>>> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/10/2014 07:48 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the ePMP is going to run into the same problem all the >>>>>> 802.11ac vendors are seeing with the new OOBE rules. The 450 is able to >>>>>> provide a better performance within the new environment so there will >>>>>> still >>>>>> be a differentiator. The only question if it’s worth the difference. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Rory >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >>>>>> Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt via Af >>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:45 PM >>>>>> *To:* Josh Luthman via Af >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> .AC is an upgrade to .N. Cambium has the choice to use it or not. >>>>>> Others do. epmp competes with 450 right now but helps to keep customers >>>>>> and >>>>>> applications where 450 does not meet the price point. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Von:* Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 11. Dezember 2014 04:00 >>>>>> *An:* Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> An .AC ePMP would be incredible - but the issue is whether Cambium >>>>>> would be >>>>>> fearful of it competing too much with the 450. What does a company do >>>>>> when >>>>>> it has 2 products that are too good, and the cheaper one starts to >>>>>> outshine >>>>>> the more expensive one in the most often used benchmark? (mbps - even >>>>>> .AC >>>>>> ePMP is unlikely to beat 450 in scalability / latency / etc). >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Stefan Englhardt via Af < >>>>>> af@afmug.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > The answer is to release an epmp1000-ac. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > *Von:* Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>>> > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 11. Dezember 2014 01:39 >>>>>> > *An:* Josh Luthman via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I hope Cambium is listing on this point. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Get rid of speed license and make it as unlimited radios at 10 meg >>>>>> price >>>>>> > point. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > They are about to have more competition from lot of other vendors >>>>>> too. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Tushar >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>>> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Peter Kranz via Af >>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:10 PM >>>>>> > To: af@afmug.com >>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > Yes no maybe. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I think this is good news actually, as it is sure to light the >>>>>> competitive >>>>>> > fire under Cambium to get to feature parity and get rid of speed >>>>>> licenses. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >
