If ISPs have to collect, does that mean they are also eligible for
subsidies?

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> So did all you folks stop worrying about the 5 GHz rules?  They are
> already a done deal, the end of new equipment authorization is coming soon,
> to be followed by end of sale.
>
> Seems like this is as big an issue if not bigger than having to pay into
> USF which, let's face it, we just turn around and add as a below-the-line
> charge on customer bills.  Customers have already proved they don't pay
> attention to below-the-line charges, plus all the competition would be
> doing it as well.  The main downside I see is if they increase the size of
> the CAF fund and our big competition gets even more subsidies to overbuild
> us.
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Rory Conaway
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:14 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
>
>
> You should change it to, "when required by corrupt, geriatric, ignorant,
> and moronic government politicians".  There is no question why Obama is
> pushing this, he is an ideological idiot with absolutely no management or
> economic skills.  Add to that his feelings are hurt that the rest of the
> country is now seeing him for the egomaniac immature child that he is.
> Wheeler is now just trying to keep his job temporarily but I guarantee is
> trying to find a way out of this that preserves his lobbying business.
>  The second he can get out, preserve his reputation, and probably not let
> his boss destroy the country and his future/former clients any further
> economically than he already has, including the 1200 new regulations taking
> effect now that will cost at least $200B this year alone, he's gone.
>
> All I know is I didn't go far enough with my Tom Wheeler article.  Obama
> blindsided me on his need to destroy another industry and make government
> bigger.
>
> Rory
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 10:21 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP
>
> We have always had the disclaimer in our service agreement that it would
> include taxes/surcharges if/when required by the government.  Doesn't make
> it taste any better, but it covers the reality.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/21/2015 6:23 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>
>> On 1/21/15 18:07, Rory Conaway wrote:
>>
>>> I think we need to tell every single customer why the rates went up.
>>> There is another election in 2 years.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Your rates aren't going up. The explanation to the customer is simple:
>> "the total bill is higher because the government added a new tax. The
>> pre-tax price of service hasn't changed. We're not making any money
>> off this, if anything it adds more overhead to collect it. If you're
>> unhappy with this tax then call/write your representatives in congress."
>>
>> ~Seth
>>
>
>
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