Ken, I’m trying to get Alex to answer you to the mailing list so I don’t mangle this. I don’t think Alex is on this list, and with the new list server it might be hard for him to answer here.
Mark > On Jan 22, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > > My worry would be that manufacturers decide the redesign effort, higher > prices, and lower performance makes the WISP market not worthwhile and they > just walk away and don’t make long range equipment for the 5 GHz band. And > decide the money is in small cell WiFi equipment, for the guys who wanted the > rules change. > > The other possible outcome is manufacturers sell equipment authorized for low > gain antennas but that can be operated illegally with high gain antennas, > leaving WISPs with the choice of going out of business or operating > illegally. Kind of a Walter White choice. > > It’s good to hear the manufacturers are developing a proposal that will > hopefully appease the FCC and FAA, I assume they are proposing something they > believe they can actually design, manufacture and sell to the WISP market. > > > > From: John Woodfield <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:53 AM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP > > But will they enforce it with all the amateurs running around throwing up > UBNT stuff everywhere? Its gotten really bad around here. Nobody even bothers > to do spectrum analysis. Heck the county government starting throwing up > rocket dishes at full power blasting 40mhz channels all over the place... > > > > John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:49am > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP > > > Oh you missed that? Out of band emissions limits will be based on EIRP > instead of Tx power. So a linksys router with a 3db antenna probably doesn't > have to change anything, but anything with big panels/dishes/sectors has to > reduce their OOB emissions accordingly. The end result is staying legal in > 5ghz will require expensive filters added to the equipment, or a reduction in > tx power, or a reduction in antenna gain, or a combination of the three. > > I think that's about the size of it. > >> Ok What did I miss. New 5ghz rules??? >> >> >> >> John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com >> <http://www.delmarvawifi.com/> cell (410) 708-1937 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Ken Hohhof" mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:28am >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP >> >> So did all you folks stop worrying about the 5 GHz rules? They are already >> a done deal, the end of new equipment authorization is coming soon, to be >> followed by end of sale. >> >> Seems like this is as big an issue if not bigger than having to pay into USF >> which, let's face it, we just turn around and add as a below-the-line charge >> on customer bills. Customers have already proved they don't pay attention >> to below-the-line charges, plus all the competition would be doing it as >> well. The main downside I see is if they increase the size of the CAF fund >> and our big competition gets even more subsidies to overbuild us. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rory Conaway >> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:14 AM >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP >> >> You should change it to, "when required by corrupt, geriatric, ignorant, and >> moronic government politicians". There is no question why Obama is pushing >> this, he is an ideological idiot with absolutely no management or economic >> skills. Add to that his feelings are hurt that the rest of the country is >> now seeing him for the egomaniac immature child that he is. Wheeler is now >> just trying to keep his job temporarily but I guarantee is trying to find a >> way out of this that preserves his lobbying business. The second he can >> get out, preserve his reputation, and probably not let his boss destroy the >> country and his future/former clients any further economically than he >> already has, including the 1200 new regulations taking effect now that will >> cost at least $200B this year alone, he's gone. >> >> All I know is I didn't go far enough with my Tom Wheeler article. Obama >> blindsided me on his need to destroy another industry and make government >> bigger. >> >> Rory >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >> Behalf Of Bill Prince >> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 10:21 PM >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the future of being an ISP >> >> We have always had the disclaimer in our service agreement that it would >> include taxes/surcharges if/when required by the government. Doesn't make >> it taste any better, but it covers the reality. >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 1/21/2015 6:23 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: >> > On 1/21/15 18:07, Rory Conaway wrote: >> >> I think we need to tell every single customer why the rates went up. >> >> There is another election in 2 years. >> >> >> > >> > >> > Your rates aren't going up. The explanation to the customer is simple: >> > "the total bill is higher because the government added a new tax. The >> > pre-tax price of service hasn't changed. We're not making any money >> > off this, if anything it adds more overhead to collect it. If you're >> > unhappy with this tax then call/write your representatives in congress." >> > >> > ~Seth >> >>
