Don’t worry, the dingo has promised to forbear from eating babies.

Or remember Bruce the shark in Finding Nemo?  “Fish are friends, not food.”


From: Mark Radabaugh 
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 1:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "Net neutrality"

Without getting too political, my objection to the forbearance process is that 
there are duly enacted statutes and regulations that the FCC can, of it's 
commissioners volition, choose not to enforce it.   Section 10 gives the FCC 
the power to "forbear from enforcing statutes and regulations that are no 
longer current and necessary in light of changes in the industry".   

Changing the law or regulations is a difficult and time consuming process, 
often with considerable public input.  Choosing to forbear or remove 
forbearance is not a long and difficult process, which is my objection.  If 
Broadband is under Title II and the commissioners decide that rate regulation 
of ISP's is 'current and necessary' then rate regulation comes back.   The 
decision gets made by 3 of the 5 commissioners and other than taking it to the 
courts there isn't anything that can be done about it.

The mockery comment was more aimed at the Obamacare 'executive authority' where 
the administration just ignores whatever parts of the actual law hat are 
politically inconvenient.   Congress did undoubtedly give the FCC forbearance 
authority, so it's legal, but it's a safe bet that Congress never intended the 
authority to include waiving 90% of of an entire section.

Mark



  On Feb 11, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

  whether you agree or not, it is not a mockery of the law..it is a lawful 
process in our current rule of government.    
  It is easy to want to state you want "laissez faire" but image what would 
happen if government didn't offer us some protection.
  FCC ---licensed links for example.   Once license process is done and you 
have a legitimate license, you have recourse..  Try getting help on unlicensed 
links....
  not a political stance...just practical

  Jaime Solorza 
  Wireless Systems Architect
  915-861-1390

  On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:

    The forbearance process, changeable at any time for any politically 
expedient reason, scares me.    It's 'executive authority' all over again and 
makes a mockery of the rule of law and the democratic process.

    Mark


    > On Feb 5, 2015, at 5:57 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
    >
    > But the only permanent part of this I see is being reclassified as a 
utility.  Everything else including forbearing from most of the bad stuff is 
totally up to change, with very little upside and tons of downside.  It would 
be different if this was proposed legislation, it wouldn't be changeable at the 
whim of future FCC commissioners.
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message----- From: David
    > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 4:52 PM
    > To: af@afmug.com
    > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "Net neutrality"
    >
    > I hope so.. Because I can be Extreme :)
    >
    >> On 02/05/2015 02:46 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
    >> Steve's talk about this yesterday lead me to believe this is something 
we can live with.
    >>
    >> -----Original Message----- From: Brett A Mansfield
    >> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 11:28 AM
    >> To: af@afmug.com
    >> Subject: [AFMUG] "Net neutrality"
    >>
    >> I just ready yet another article on the so called "net neutrality" the 
FCC will be voting on Feb 26th. This government overreach is going to force me 
to have to register to collect taxes on all of my customers, which I'll need to 
pay someone to do for me to make sure I stay in compliance, which will require 
that I raise prices to cover my increased costs.
    >>
    >> It will also prevent me from being able to run any kind of QoS on my 
network, so goodbye to any decent VoIP calls.
    >>
    >> I for one would like to keep the government out of my business beyond 
what they already are. The article I read stated that it will likely pass. If 
it does, I think something very "extreme" may need to be done. If in protest 
every ISP in the USA shut down their networks either until the law was repealed 
or for just a day or two strike I think the government would get the picture, 
and if they didn't then the millions of people complaining to them about it 
would certainly help.
    >>
    >> I know that is very extreme, but just a thought. Anyone else have any 
ideas? Perhaps if we just threaten to do so may help?  I'm just spitballing 
here, so please don't think I'm being to crazy. I just want the discussion to 
begin of what we could really do to stop this.
    >>
    >> Thank you,
    >> Brett A Mansfield
    >
    >


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