Two already!!!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 11, 2015 9:30 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Conversely not even a couple weeks in...
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
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> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, March 11, 2015 8:27:08 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] A note on ePMP 2.4 PTP mode
>
> Only a couple weeks left to arrive within this month.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 11, 2015 9:25 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> Except that you knew they wouldn't ship until this month sometime.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
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>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, March 11, 2015 8:24:02 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] A note on ePMP 2.4 PTP mode
>>
>> I ordered one a month ago.  Still haven't seen it.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Mar 11, 2015 9:21 PM, "Chuck Macenski" <ch...@macenski.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You know you want one!
>>>
>>> All airFiber 5X radios come with GPS sync (we even include a GPS antenna
>>> and mount in the box).
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 7:50 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) <
>>> geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  The only reason to use it right now is because of the GigE interface
>>>> and 802.3af power ability.
>>>>
>>>> So come on Cambium, don't make me buy AirFiber 5X's.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/11/2015 7:19 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes! If the force110 PTP will get a PTP-only sync ability at some
>>>> point, I'm going to start using them everywhere even if I don't actually
>>>> sync. as they are now, I'm not sure it's worth spending the extra money
>>>> over just using a standard force110.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:58 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) <
>>>> geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Yeah, if I'm going to buy the 110PTP radio, which we know is the Sync
>>>>> radio with it disabled!, then let me do PTP-only WITH sync. I can
>>>>> understand they don't want us buying the PTP radio at half the price and
>>>>> someone figuring out how to hack it into an AP. For PTP links, I would
>>>>> spend the extra $ for the PTP radio whether I need the sync or not, may
>>>>> need it in the future, so why not put it up now. And I'm talking both 
>>>>> ends,
>>>>> you never know if you have to swap masters for timing.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/11/2015 5:13 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I know... I was told they were looking into doing just that.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's software limited to not do sync.  I'd like to see it limited to
>>>>>> being only a PTP, just allow the sync.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There was some talk of enabling GPS sync on the eForce PTP110, is
>>>>>>> that something that is going to happen? with the 2.5ms frame, we should 
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> latency closer to what flexible mode does, correct?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But the force110ptp can't sync so it should always do ePTP?  PTP
>>>>>>>> being possibly better if you have a large scale of synced backhauls I
>>>>>>>> suppose.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Dan Sullivan <
>>>>>>>> daniel.sulli...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Matt,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ePTP does not support GPS sync as there is no fixed frame.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PTP mode is TDD based and does support GPS Sync.  The 2.5 msec
>>>>>>>>> frame also will support GPS Sync.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dan Sullivan
>>>>>>>>> ePMP Software Manager
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 3:17 PM
>>>>>>>>>  To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] A note on ePMP 2.4 PTP mode
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  > Just a quick note on the enhanced PTP mode of operation -
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > You will see lower latency in most deployments as compared to
>>>>>>>>> the TDD & Flex mode of operation. However, in high interference 
>>>>>>>>> coupled
>>>>>>>>> with long distance environments the flexible mode will do better in 
>>>>>>>>> terms
>>>>>>>>> of tput.
>>>>>>>>> > At this time, this is per design but we will be addressing and
>>>>>>>>> incorporating some of the good stuff from our TDD/Flex mode of 
>>>>>>>>> operation
>>>>>>>>> into the enhanced PTP to bring back the tput in the above conditions.
>>>>>>>>> > Please note that we are also working on a 2.5ms frame to reduce
>>>>>>>>> latency in the PMP mode of operation.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Thanks
>>>>>>>>> > Sakid
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Looking at ePMP in 5ghz for PTP.  Is there a way to do it WITH
>>>>>>>>> GPS sync to allow frequency reuse for PTP yet?  Running out of 5ghz
>>>>>>>>> spectrum.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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