Are you both Jesus in this situation?

Josh Luthman
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On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Then do what I already told you to do. You'll see what's happening, Jesus.
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> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
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> *From: *"That One Guy" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, March 23, 2015 12:16:27 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance
>
> Im not wanting to alter anything, I just want to see, jesus
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> You can register with every geolocation service known to man and places
>> still find ways to place you incorrectly. I've got a new one now.
>> ShadowServer thinks I'm in Glen Ellyn. The IP block has never been in or
>> near Glen Ellyn.
>>
>> One could assume that the middle of a week day is a light NetFlix time
>> and that they would be pointing you to the nearest location. If they
>> thought he was in Albuquerque, that could make optimal routing a bit
>> difficult. It wouldn't just be the gross latency, but the number of peering
>> points and hops with potential congestion issues.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
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>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Monday, March 23, 2015 12:05:29 PM
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance
>>
>>  I also don’t know how important it is that a CDN be “near” you.
>>
>> By definition, you’re probably talking a sustained download, either a
>> video stream or some kind of large file download.  And most of the time you
>> will see 4 parallel TCP connections.  I really don’t think latency matters
>> once you start the download.  What does matter is server balancing.  If
>> your DNS server has correct geoIP but Netflix chooses to send your
>> customers to a server in Dallas, maybe their Chicago servers are overloaded
>> or undergoing maintenance.  Do you really want to second guess their
>> decisions?  About all you can do is make sure your DNS server is in the
>> right place according to the geolocation database services, and let the
>> content provider decide what IP address to hand out to your customers and
>> how to route that IP (they may use geoIP info to decide the routing, not
>> the DNS).
>>
>> Now, if your DNS server appears to be in a whole wrong part of the world,
>> that may have dramatic effects, like totally different content being
>> available because Netflix thinks your customer is in Europe or Asia.
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 11:55 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance
>>
>>  Pardon the mess, I'm on a laptop with a damn touchpad.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"That One Guy" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Monday, March 23, 2015 11:43:50 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance
>>
>> used the wrong term
>> Ignore the term
>> Take cache out of thyne mouth
>>
>> now, being a windows dick, I dont have torch
>>
>> I want to simply be able to verify that appropriate CDNs are being
>> utilized
>>
>> namebench is still running, I dont know what its output is going to be
>>
>> This cant be a new thing, I see threads occasionally about content being
>> problematic in that users are getting less than desirable CDNs, it always
>> seems to boil down to DNS,
>>
>> I just want a tool that will tell me where the content is coming from.
>> (in a perfect world, it would display on a map with a quality indicator to
>> that CDN, I dont have any expectation that that component of the tool would
>> exist)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>>   Not generic.  You have to use the one they provide.  And they will
>>> not give to you unless you are doing some like 4tB per month.
>>>
>>>  *From:* Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 10:33 AM
>>>  *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance
>>>
>>>    I was not aware you could cache Netflix streams with a generic
>>> caching server.  Not only due to DRM, but also Netflix app switches streams
>>> dynamically to match video quality to connection speed.  Plus first the
>>> customer authenticates to Netflix server, chooses what content to watch,
>>> etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 11:23 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance
>>>
>>>    Say a new movie is on Netflix.  Or latest season of cards.  Everyone
>>> is going to want to watch it.  So 1000 simultaneous backbone streams to
>>> Netflix vs 1000 simultaneous streams to the caching server in your NOC.  I
>>> choose the latter.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Monday, March 23, 2015 11:08:27 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance
>>>
>>>  I don’t understand how the caching server is going to help with CDNs.
>>> Actually, with so much Internet content now being either dynamic HTML or
>>> streaming, I wouldn’t think caching would be worth it, unless you are
>>> talking about something like a Netflix OpenConnect appliance.  Maybe you
>>> can cache software updates, I’m not sure about that.
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* That One Guy <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 10:35 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance
>>>
>>>  Geographically close CDNs. I want to make sure we are getting content
>>> from Illinoisish rather than california for netflix, since all that matters
>>> is netflix
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For performance, look at queryperf which I think is provided by
>>>> ISC/bind.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what you mean by "we are getting good CDNs and the like,"
>>>> though.
>>>>
>>>> Josh
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:27 AM, That One Guy <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Im bringing live our first caching server today. Is there a good tool
>>>>> for comparing queries between DNS servers.
>>>>> Im not all that concerned about speed since we are so small there wont
>>>>> be a huge amount of benefit I would think. Im primarily wanting to make
>>>>> sure we are getting good CDNs and the like
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
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