Hey Zeus?

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  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 12:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance


  He's us?




  Josh Luthman
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  On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@spitwspots.com> wrote:

    It's not pronounced that way, use an "H" for the "J"!@ :D



    On 03/23/2015 09:28 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

      hehe

      He just wanted to see Jesus, so I told him he was Jesus.




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      Mike Hammett
      Intelligent Computing Solutions
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      From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
      To: af@afmug.com
      Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 12:25:56 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance


      Are you both Jesus in this situation?




      Josh Luthman
      Office: 937-552-2340
      Direct: 937-552-2343
      1100 Wayne St
      Suite 1337
      Troy, OH 45373


      On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

        Then do what I already told you to do. You'll see what's happening, 
Jesus.




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        Mike Hammett
        Intelligent Computing Solutions
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        From: "That One Guy" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
        To: af@afmug.com
        Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 12:16:27 PM 

        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance


        Im not wanting to alter anything, I just want to see, jesus


        On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

          You can register with every geolocation service known to man and 
places still find ways to place you incorrectly. I've got a new one now. 
ShadowServer thinks I'm in Glen Ellyn. The IP block has never been in or near 
Glen Ellyn.

          One could assume that the middle of a week day is a light NetFlix 
time and that they would be pointing you to the nearest location. If they 
thought he was in Albuquerque, that could make optimal routing a bit difficult. 
It wouldn't just be the gross latency, but the number of peering points and 
hops with potential congestion issues. 




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          Mike Hammett
          Intelligent Computing Solutions
          http://www.ics-il.com



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          From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
          To: af@afmug.com
          Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 12:05:29 PM 

          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance


          I also don’t know how important it is that a CDN be “near” you.

          By definition, you’re probably talking a sustained download, either a 
video stream or some kind of large file download.  And most of the time you 
will see 4 parallel TCP connections.  I really don’t think latency matters once 
you start the download.  What does matter is server balancing.  If your DNS 
server has correct geoIP but Netflix chooses to send your customers to a server 
in Dallas, maybe their Chicago servers are overloaded or undergoing 
maintenance.  Do you really want to second guess their decisions?  About all 
you can do is make sure your DNS server is in the right place according to the 
geolocation database services, and let the content provider decide what IP 
address to hand out to your customers and how to route that IP (they may use 
geoIP info to decide the routing, not the DNS).

          Now, if your DNS server appears to be in a whole wrong part of the 
world, that may have dramatic effects, like totally different content being 
available because Netflix thinks your customer is in Europe or Asia.


          From: Mike Hammett 
          Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 11:55 AM
          To: af@afmug.com 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance

          Pardon the mess, I'm on a laptop with a damn touchpad.




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          Mike Hammett
          Intelligent Computing Solutions
          http://www.ics-il.com



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          From: "That One Guy" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
          To: af@afmug.com
          Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 11:43:50 AM
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance


          used the wrong term 
          Ignore the term
          Take cache out of thyne mouth

          now, being a windows dick, I dont have torch

          I want to simply be able to verify that appropriate CDNs are being 
utilized

          namebench is still running, I dont know what its output is going to be

          This cant be a new thing, I see threads occasionally about content 
being problematic in that users are getting less than desirable CDNs, it always 
seems to boil down to DNS,

          I just want a tool that will tell me where the content is coming 
from. (in a perfect world, it would display on a map with a quality indicator 
to that CDN, I dont have any expectation that that component of the tool would 
exist)



          On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> 
wrote:

            Not generic.  You have to use the one they provide.  And they will 
not give to you unless you are doing some like 4tB per month.  

            From: Ken Hohhof 
            Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 10:33 AM
            To: af@afmug.com 
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance

            I was not aware you could cache Netflix streams with a generic 
caching server.  Not only due to DRM, but also Netflix app switches streams 
dynamically to match video quality to connection speed.  Plus first the 
customer authenticates to Netflix server, chooses what content to watch, etc.


            From: Chuck McCown 
            Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 11:23 AM
            To: af@afmug.com 
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance

            Say a new movie is on Netflix.  Or latest season of cards.  
Everyone is going to want to watch it.  So 1000 simultaneous backbone streams 
to Netflix vs 1000 simultaneous streams to the caching server in your NOC.  I 
choose the latter.


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            From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
            To: af@afmug.com
            Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 11:08:27 AM
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance


            I don’t understand how the caching server is going to help with 
CDNs.  Actually, with so much Internet content now being either dynamic HTML or 
streaming, I wouldn’t think caching would be worth it, unless you are talking 
about something like a Netflix OpenConnect appliance.  Maybe you can cache 
software updates, I’m not sure about that.


            From: That One Guy 
            Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 10:35 AM
            To: af@afmug.com 
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] testing DNS server performance

            Geographically close CDNs. I want to make sure we are getting 
content from Illinoisish rather than california for netflix, since all that 
matters is netflix

            On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

              For performance, look at queryperf which I think is provided by 
ISC/bind. 

              I'm not sure what you mean by "we are getting good CDNs and the 
like," though.

              Josh

              On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:27 AM, That One Guy 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

                Im bringing live our first caching server today. Is there a 
good tool for comparing queries between DNS servers. 
                Im not all that concerned about speed since we are so small 
there wont be a huge amount of benefit I would think. Im primarily wanting to 
make sure we are getting good CDNs and the like


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