Way back when God was a baby we ordered a custom 900Mhz amp for the makers of Presidente Brandy. The amp folks leveraged my Amex advance payment to make payroll! A month later we received amp. Mid 90s. I think they are still in business ...only time I ever bought from them
Jaime Solorza On Mar 23, 2015 5:02 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <e...@kuhnke-international.com> wrote: > Isn't that nice, they get to take your money and earn interest (or > whatever) on it for months until the product ships. Negligibly tiny amount > for one order, but multiply by hundreds of customers each ordering > thousands of dollars of gear. > > Many vendors only bill for back-ordered products when they actually ship. > > > On 3/23/15 10:26 PM, Jeremy wrote: > > My AF5X order from Streakwave is like that. From the invoice: > > "Non Cancellable/Non Refundable Orders: > > Items ordered under these terms are > > non-cancellable and non-refundable. > > Prepayment may be required for purchase > > of NCNR items. Products purchased under > > these terms are considered all sales > > final with warranty service provided by > > the manufacturer where applicable." > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Right, exactly. If the distributor just hasn't gotten their order yet, >> and they expect it soon is entirely different than if they didn't order >> enough to fulfill their commitment... if that's the case, and they refuse >> to cancel the order, I certainly wouldn't be dealing with them again. >> >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Josh Luthman < >> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> >>> Depends on the circumstance. If it's the first shipment of the product >>> and theirs arrives an extra day or two, you shouldn't be canceling IMO. In >>> the event they didn't order enough to fulfill their commitment, cancelling >>> should be no problem and distributor should apologize. >>> >>> Worst case scenario if they're being ridiculous you can always refuse >>> the charge on your credit card, but that looks bad on both parties. >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Probably, but in that case, it seems more productive to complain to the >>>> distributor... since they are available elsewhere, there's a good chance >>>> they'll be willing to cancel the order... since it appears to be their >>>> fault for not ordering enough, or ordering late. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If he pre-ordered, the Distributor may have put a no-cancel on the >>>>> order, and made him prepay something..... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3/23/2015 3:48 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Tim, why would you not order them elsewhere and cancel the order >>>>> from the distributor who doesn’t have stock? >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com> >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 3:28 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line >>>>> >>>>> What exactly would you like me to do? We are telling you where >>>>> units are available. As I mentioned distributors place orders at >>>>> different >>>>> times and some new products get ordered sooner than others. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:15 PM, <t...@nwohiobb.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> its one of the main distributor for ubnt and ben wont do anything >>>>>> about it.... >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2015-03-23 16:06, Mike Hammett wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sounds like your distributor sucks. ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FROM: t...@nwohiobb.com >>>>>>> TO: af@afmug.com >>>>>>> SENT: Monday, March 23, 2015 3:03:54 PM >>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well it doesnt help me any if I already got mine ordered but the >>>>>>> distributor is dragging there feet to get mine to me >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2015-03-23 15:42, Ben Moore wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Jeremy! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Streakwave has them (PBE-5AC-620) in stock now. I am picking some >>>>>>>>> up on will call. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Tim Reichhart <t...@nwohiobb.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ben told me it as been shipping since dec and I have ordered mine >>>>>>>>> and I keep getting told I wont have mine until may which is totally >>>>>>>>> uncalled for. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FROM: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] ON BEHALF OF Rory Conaway >>>>>>>>> SENT: Saturday, March 21, 2015 1:37 AM >>>>>>>>> TO: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is the PBE-5AC-620 shipping yet? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FROM: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] ON BEHALF OF Rory Conaway >>>>>>>>> SENT: Friday, March 20, 2015 3:43 PM >>>>>>>>> TO: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If I set up a new tower with 802.11ac, am I going to have any >>>>>>>>> problems getting CPE’s over the next 3 months? Is there any >>>>>>>>> chance of supply shortages? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rory >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FROM: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] ON BEHALF OF Ben Moore >>>>>>>>> SENT: Friday, March 20, 2015 2:59 PM >>>>>>>>> TO: af@afmug.com >>>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That is the good thing about these...they are being air shipped ;-) >>>>>>>>> You can imagine what I would say with all of the port issues if >>>>>>>>> they were going "on the boat" ;) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I can't think of any. If you take the word "soon" and "on the >>>>>>>>> boat" out of your emails, we'd save about 15 terabytes of storage. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 [1] >>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 [2] >>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Come on now...I know I have done it at least once before in the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> last >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 15 years...Man, can't believe it has already been 15 years!!!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well they may or may not be reliable, but you stated a quantifiable >>>>>>>>> value. That has to be a first. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 [1] >>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 [2] >>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hey, who says they are accurate?? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Did Ben...just measure...in accurate numbers????????????? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 [1] >>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 [2] >>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Ben Moore <ben.mo...@ubnt.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No, but should be in distributors hands in ~7-10 days. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:30 PM, That One Guy >>>>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> this is a cheap link, nanopowerbeams are integrated not >>>>>>>>> connectorized >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I didnt give much thought to the AF5x since its not in anybodys >>>>>>>>> actual hands yet is it? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Mathew Howard >>>>>>>>> <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I guess because you're too cheap to spend an extra $400 on the >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> link? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Personally, I wouldn't... if I'm going to go cheap, might as well >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> go >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> all the way cheap and use a pair of NanoPowerBeams. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't know why you'd do UBNT AC when you can do AF5x unless it >>>>>>>>> needs done in the next couple weeks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 [1] >>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 [2] >>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Mathew Howard >>>>>>>>> <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, the Rockets are the only connectorized units. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Lite is cheap and can do PtP or PtMP, but does not have >>>>>>>>> airprism. The PtP and PtMP have airPrism, but there's apparently >>>>>>>>> differences in airprism between the two which means they will >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> always >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> be limited to ptp or ptmp, as far as I know this is going to be a >>>>>>>>> permanent separation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The AC radios have faster CPUs and that sort of thing, so they are >>>>>>>>> going to perform better than the old junk, they also have some >>>>>>>>> spiffy features like live airview. The biggest downside to the AC >>>>>>>>> line at this point is the lack of DFS and UNII-1. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I personally wouldn't put up anything with the old M5 stuff at this >>>>>>>>> point unless you need to for compatibility reasons, UBNT AC should >>>>>>>>> perform best of the three, but ePMP gives you a bit more >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> flexibility >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> at this point. I expect AF5x to be better than any of them in every >>>>>>>>> way. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:02 PM, That One Guy >>>>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The current iteractions of the rocket AC line, these are the only >>>>>>>>> connectorized units? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What are the differences between lite, ptp, and ptmp airprism only? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are some of these shipping without all there guts? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am looking at replacing an old shitbucket tranzeo link, we >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> already >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> have it connected to one pol of a set of radiowaves 2 foot HP >>>>>>>>> parabolics. I figure its worth checking out these AC radios, but I >>>>>>>>> dont know whats what now, is this a permanent separation with UBNT >>>>>>>>> of ptp and ptmp or is this two things that are going to converge? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Other than the Ac component, for a low throughput demand link is >>>>>>>>> there any major benefit of going to the AC over the M5 in terms of >>>>>>>>> performance? (future demand is a factor as well) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also considering the epmp, goods, bads uglies between the three >>>>>>>>> products there? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see >>>>>>>>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of >>>>>>>>> the team. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> team. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Links: >>>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>>> [1] tel:937-552-2340 >>>>>>>> [2] tel:937-552-2343 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > >
