I guess you're just not supposed to have any special features... On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> Well, the standard mib covers most stuff. You add a little extra for > your special features. What exactly is wrong with that? How else do you > do it? > > *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:25 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS > > >[09:35] <adama> everyone involved in wireless seems to be literally > retarded when it comes to writing mibs > > I wonder if he has a cell phone. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Daniel White <afmu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I wonder what the Tier 1 wireless carriers would think of that too. >> But maybe that isn’t their market either. >> >> >> >> >> *************************************************************************** >> >> Daniel White - Managing Director >> >> SAF North America LLC >> >> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 >> >> daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com >> >> Skype: danieldwhite >> Social: LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84> >> >> >> >> >> *************************************************************************** >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:22 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS >> >> >> >> I fucking love this guy! He needs to join the list. Him and Patrick Leary >> can discus wireless >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Lists <li...@wavedirect.org> wrote: >> >> This was on the channel #observium in open public chat (not private). >> Its pruned to take out some joins/parts useless info etc. I simply asked >> about support for Cambium and now we know exactly what he thinks of "wifi >> people". This guy is a true professional. Funny they think Mikrotik is >> "ghetto". Sure he makes some valid points about the lack of unity in our >> MIBS. I liked his product for our infrastructure, switches, routers etc. >> But I think I can get by without his product from now on. This is the >> luxury of having many independent monitoring systems. It lacks any real >> alerting system or agents for servers anyway. I literally started off with >> that sentence. He added some cambium support a few months ago so I wanted >> to know if more was coming. >> >> [09:34] <Smeghead> any chance of adding more cambium stuff soon? :) >> [09:34] *<adama> are they another bunch of fucktards who make a new set >> of mibs for every product?* >> [09:35] *<adama> everyone involved in wireless seems to be literally >> retarded when it comes to writing mibs* >> [09:37] *<adama> yup, they are* >> [09:38] <Smeghead> Yeah so I guess we shouldn't support it then and all >> the millions of units out there. >> [09:38] <adama> different set of mibs for every fuckign product >> [09:38] <adama> jesus >> [09:38] <Smeghead> They unified one of their mibs with the regular AP's >> [09:38] <adama> can you english? >> [09:39] <Smeghead> The interface stuff is the same for all of them >> [09:39] <Smeghead> its your standard interface mibs. Other than that >> really there is MAYBE 10 unique things per different product >> *[09:40] <adama> fucking wifi people* >> [09:40] <adama> you guys have 12903819023810 products from 129381 vendors >> [09:40] <Smeghead> If you want to be thorough with them you could pull >> all sorts of stuff out. >> *[09:40] <adama> and you're always whining that we should support the >> stuff you want* >> *[09:40] <adama> well fuck you all* >> [09:40] <Smeghead> *Yeah thats my fault as a consumer of those products.* >> [09:41] <Smeghead> All I want to do is monitor the best.. Cambium is the >> biggest and most widely used next to Ubiquiti.. so I'd stick to supporting >> those 2 fully >> [09:41] <adama> meh >> *[09:41] <adama> get them to send us hardware* >> *[09:41] <adama> and maybe we'll give a shit* >> *[09:43] <Smeghead> I'll see if we can send you cambium for sure. I >> could even arrange you a login or set you up a vm on the network so you can >> probe some equipment we have plugged in in a separate environment for you. >> * >> *[09:43] <Smeghead> I'm pretty sure I offered a few times. * >> [09:49] <Smeghead> to be honest though - I don't think observium is >> really hugely needed for AP's and subcribers. Maybe starting with just the >> wireless bridges first would be the best start. That isn't so overwhelming >> [09:57] <adama> you might as well go and hassle jaguar engineers about >> how they really should build a pickup truck >> [09:57] *<adama> i'm a telco/isp network person, i don't give 2 shits >> about wireless* >> *[09:57] <Smeghead> Who do you think delivers internet to the massive >> areas between the major cities?* >> *[09:58] <adama> i dunno, are we talking about retarded countries or not?* >> [09:58] <Smeghead> Yeah all of the Western hemisphere.. >> [09:59] <adama> lol >> [09:59] <adama> XD >> *[10:01] <adama> my patience for people asking for wireless stuff ran out >> long ago* >> [10:01] <Smeghead> Well if you want more excuses to neglect a high >> percentage of industry in the world that delivers internet.. yeah take >> this one. Its probably too hard and too much work for you. Because the >> wireless industry is retarded. >> [10:01] <adama> i know it is >> [10:02] <Smeghead> Yet I can make some cacti graphs in a few mins for >> anything. Cacti is old and busted. Your product is new and refreshing. >> That is why the industry is bugging you. >> [10:04] <adama> go and make some cacti graphs then >> [10:04] <adama> i'm really fucking sick of this shit >> [10:04] <adama> it doesn't take 5 minutes to add support for things >> [10:04] <adama> especially no nfucking wireless stuff >> [10:04] <adama> so just fuck off >> [10:04] <adama> it's not going to happen >> [10:04] <adama> and every one who asks makes it less likely to happen >> [*10:06] <Smeghead> But I'll bet if you asked for help you'd get it. >> Look I was willing to set you up a network with all the devices you need* >> [10:06] <adama> excuse me whilst i replace these 32*10G bundles with some >> wireless >> [10:06] <adama> HURR >> [10:06] <adama> no >> *[10:06] <adama> i'd get a pile of useless shitty code* >> *[10:06] <adama> that's the only thing we've ever gotten from the >> "community"* >> [10:09] <aden> *adama: make Observium -3rd world edition, that only >> supports mikrotik and ghetto wireless hardware* >> [10:09] <adama> hah >> [10:10] <Smeghead> Mainly because its (Mikrotik) like 10% of the price >> and does the same job and even better in many cases. >> [10:11] <adama> no, they use it because it "just about works" and costs >> 10% of the price >> [10:11] <Smeghead> Dragonwave aint ghetto nor some of these other >> backhaul manufacturers. >> [10:12] <Smeghead> and your proof is from what experience? >> [10:12] <Smeghead> Sounds like a case of "they suck over there" and "I >> know all about them, I've never worked in the industry or actually been a >> part of any of it but I know what I'm talking about". >> [10:13] <Smeghead> Those crazy brown people and their silly ways. They >> are inferior to us. >> [10:13] <adama> man, this is exactly the kind of shit that made us go >> commercial in the first place >> [10:14] <adama> dude >> [10:14] <adama> just fuck off >> [10:14] <adama> you're getting really tiring now >> [10:14] <Smeghead> It takes 10x more effort to deliver internet to remote >> people.. not to mention flexibility and creativity. >> [10:14] <Smeghead> Than some pompous pricks sitting in their offices >> *[10:15] <adama> so what was that, remove any existing wireless support >> and hope everyone else fucks off too?* >> [10:16] <adama> ok then! >> *[10:16] <Smeghead> Hahh what wireless support?* >> [10:16] * ChanServ sets mode: +o adama >> [10:16] * You were kicked by adama (Smeghead) >> Session Close: Tue Mar 31 10:16:22 2015 >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> > >
