Whoever presented to the board had a glossy enough brochure with all the
right buzzwords in it.
On 5/21/2015 2:08 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
Vivint is kind of the worst of every idea. They spend a boatload on
licensed spectrum, an excessive amount on backhaul radios and
co-location costs, all of which requires a high-density of users.
Then they deploy a non-TDMA mesh protocol so that when the density
starts to increase, they cause their own interference. The 5GHz
technology they are deploying can't support the density they need to
make this profitable. Then when connections don't work, they deploy
hacked together flat-panels to make the connection which then causes
problems for other users because the flat-panel is too directional.
I'm really not sure who is designing this but it reminds me of the
EarthLink mesh deployments. What I can't figure out is how that
design gets past a technical and financial review. This is a
multi-billion dollar, international company. Somebody should have
figured out that there weren't going to get 50Mbps through a mesh
system consistently with vegetation and that the costs weren't going
to be in line with the revenue/density.
Rory
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*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Joe Falaschi
*Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:51 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] vivint
I heard they were using this in 28GHz for BH to their micro sites:
http://cbnl.com/vectastar-gigabit-highlights
Joe Falaschi
e-vergent
On May 21, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
I think they are sometimes 5Ghz and sometimes something else on the
houses.
The backhauls appear to be the unlicensed SAF 20+GHZ stuff to nearby
drops.
Most of those in Saratoga Springs are connected to CentraCom Fiber at
the schools etc.
And they are doing 50Mbps for $50 or $60 depending on who you talk to.
So maybe they outperform DirectCom now, but when you guys get more
fiber and for a better price they will switch.
We took over quite a few in some neighborhoods already.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]*On Behalf Of*Chuck McCown
*Sent:*Thursday, May 21, 2015 12:20 PM
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:*[AFMUG] vivint
Anyone know if the APs are 5.8 GHz? I saw one going in today. Fed
with a backhaul with a 2 foot dish. Couldn't get close enough to see
if it was licensed or not. The AP antennas look like little whips.
At roof top. In a very heavy tree'd neighborhood. With trees taller
than the houses. With a bunch of other WISPs in the area... And I
just rolled fiber down that street.
Wonder who will win in the end?
