Ken - 

There's some discussion and info on the C3VoIP-200 here:

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/WISP-Business/C3VoIP-Gateways-Models/td-p/39723/page/2

There will be a webinar on it on Tuesday, June 9th, also, so you can ask 
questions live:  http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/company/webinars

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 12:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium discontinuing the traditional wall wart powersupply

Model just released has 802.11b/g/n with 2 external antennas, but yes includes 
VoIP.

I don't see a user guide on the Cambium website.  I may have to order one and 
play with it.  We currently use Cisco ATAs in bridge mode ahead of the customer 
router and give them a private IP completely separate from the router.  I'm not 
clear on whether this device will work in a similar manner. 
Also our managed CPE routers are all Mikrotik and remotely managed via Winbox, 
I assume this is probably OpenWRT based, we have had nothing but bad 
experiences with every brand of home routers and I would approach any new 
device with skepticism.  You often don’t know you've deployed a bunch of crap 
routers for a year or more when they start failing.

That said, consolidating the POE, router and ATA functions in one box would 
simplify the rats nest of wires.  And the industry is moving toward ISPs 
providing a WiFi router, DSL and cable is pretty much all that way.

If everything else was good, and the price was right, I guess I wouldn't sweat 
every customer having a phone jack on their "modem" even if 95% didn't use it.  
Could save a future truck roll.  Assuming remote management. 
Depends on how much cost it adds.


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 11:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium discontinuing the traditional wall wart powersupply

> Mark, I guess you could look at the C3VOIP200 since it includes 
> Canopy/ePMP compatible POE on the WAN port.

I so wish they made a version of it with WIFI and without VOIP.



> "Find the thin wire coming off the 1” block and follow that to the 
> power supply."
>
> 9/10 times, the customer will argue with me that it doesn't run to 
> anything because they can't find it in their mess of wires.  Or that 
> it runs to their router (because the Router power cord looks the same 
> size)
>
>
>
>
> On 6/5/2015 10:27 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>>
>> Interesting.   I always found it pretty easy to troubleshoot.
>>
>> On the back of the router find the 3” long flat black cable that goes 
>> into
>> a 1” square black box.   Is it plugged into the WAN port on the router? 
>> Oh -
>> you plugged that flat black cord into the wall jack?  Swap the ends - the
>> flat black cord goes in the router.   Find the cord plugged into the  1” 
>> box
>> and follow that to the wall jack.  Is it plugged in securely at both 
>> ends?
>> Find the thin wire coming off the 1” block and follow that to the power
>> supply.  Is it plugged in and the green light on?  No?  Plug it in.   If 
>> the
>> green light is on unplug the power supply and tell me if the light 
>> goes out
>> right away.   It fades away slowly?  Then there is a break in the wire
>> between the power supply and the equipment outside?  Oh - your 
>> husband wacked that wire with his hedge trimmer?  Yeah - that might 
>> possibly be the problem.
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 5, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> We've been using the Tycon's for quite a while as well.  We found it 
>>> next to impossible to trouble shoot the Cambium power supply with a 
>>> customer.
>>> They could never comprehend what it was, and always tried to plug in 
>>> a PC to the POE Jumper.  The Tycon's are nice, because you can 
>>> describe the white box, with 2 plugs on one side (AC and LAN), and 
>>> one plug on the other (poe).
>>> Is there a yellow or green light, The Cable from outside plugs into 
>>> the end with only 1 plug.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/5/2015 9:50 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I never used it anyway, prefer Tycon POE-24iR-CI.  And yes, a patch 
>>>> cord, but those come in various lengths and colors rather than the 
>>>> short little stub which is limiting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Mark Radabaugh
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 9:37 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium discontinuing the traditional wall wart 
>>>> power supply
>>>>
>>>> So is anyone else unhappy with Cambium’s decision to EOL the 
>>>> traditional power supply?
>>>>
>>>> The replacement part is a Ubiquiti or ePMP brick style.   It costs 
>>>> more,
>>>> does not include the power cord, and requires an additional CAT5 
>>>> jumper cable.
>>>>
>>>> While the current supply has it’s issues (hard to plug into a power
>>>> strip) it’s simple to troubleshoot over the phone with a customer with
>>>> limited ways to screw it up.   I think this is going to create more
>>>> ‘miswire’ service calls.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>
>
> 


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