Indeed, if we want to talk about standards, RFC 1925 covers this pretty
well.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1925

"It has to work."

-Steve D

On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 9:17 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> I disagree. This is exactly what Canopy does. DSCP12/AF is sent over the
> HP channel. Look at the default DiffServ table and see for yourself. Many
> managed switches are set up exactly the same way, except they have more
> queues, and Canopy only has MIR and HP. Well, there's LP CIR, but lets not
> get into that. ePMP just has "priority" which I assume means priority over
> everything else.
>
> I need a way to correct stupid manufacturer's mistakes (Grandstream being
> the worst offender). Lots of their devices ALWAYS send SIP packets as
> DSCP12 and this CANNOT be changed. Or the other one I mentioned, the GXP
> phones have one DSCP setting and this changes both SIP and RTP. I'm
> disgusted with their stupidity, but unfortunately it has to be supported
> because those devices aren't going away.
>
> It's totally doable and Cambium could add it by default, saving me time
> configuring every radio with it. Or just make DiffServ on ePMP
> work/configure like Canopy.
>
> I don't care what's wrong or right. I care about shit working right now
> and customers not being pissy.
>
> So the burden falls on the network as usual. It's always our fault.
> Sometimes I just don't know how I haven't murdered people. If I drank, it
> would probably happen. And I'm finding myself agreeing with that one guy
> Steve every other day now. Stupidity has no limit.
>
>
> On 6/6/2015 10:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>
>> Yo Cambium, you need to add DSCP 12 (Assured Forwarding) in addition to
>>> DSCP 46 (Expedited Forwarding) to the default VoIP priority
>>> configuration.
>>>
>> That would be a mistake and the wrong thing to do.
>>
>>  We're finding more devices sending SIP packets as AF and
>>> RTP as EF.
>>>
>> When a device is mis-configured, why should the burden of dealing with
>> that mis-configurtion as a default fall on another device
>>
>> There is plenty of flexibility to override the wrong setup of a device,
>> if that is they way you want to correct it in your radios...
>> (Which by all standards would be the wrong way to fix it...but more power
>> to you).
>>
>> Two wrongs don't make a right..
>>
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>> From: "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com>
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 10:27:05 PM
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS
>>>
>>> Yo Cambium, you need to add DSCP 12 (Assured Forwarding) in addition to
>>> DSCP 46 (Expedited Forwarding) to the default VoIP priority
>>> configuration. We're finding more devices sending SIP packets as AF and
>>> RTP as EF. AF isn't prioritized and out-of-band signaling (prompts, etc)
>>> are sent as SIP messages so sometimes these are getting dropped, not to
>>> mention registrations, invites, etc. And more devices are stupid (mostly
>>> Grandstream), they only let you set ONE priority value for the entire
>>> device. These are coming default as DSCP12/AF. I've tried to get
>>> everyone to change this to 46, but they don't remember.
>>>
>>> Or just apply the whole Canopy DiffServ table. We've never had to change
>>> any of those code points. Turn HP on, it just works.
>>>
>>>
>

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