That doesn't make much sense since the wlan and eth ports are bridged.  The
cpu isn't involved unless you're routing/NATing the two interfaces.


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On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think he is talking about using 40MHz channels on the older M series,
> that didn't have gig ports.  It was my understanding that the processor
> would get taxed as well on a 40MHz channel, making 30MHz actually work
> better.
>
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Ubnt and epmp have gig ports.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jun 8, 2015 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know how epmp does it.
>>>
>>> For UBNT, a 30mhz channel is just a "fat" 20mhz channel in the atheros
>>> chip. Single operation. For  a 40mhz channel, it's really two 20s, meaning
>>> radio operations are ran twice. Loss in efficiency, also marred by the lack
>>> of gigabit port.
>>> On Jun 8, 2015 7:13 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've never seeing much difference in performance on the ubnt M series
>>> between 30mhz and 40mhz channels, so yes, I would say that is true... but
>>> I'm not sure how much applies to ePMP - they do have a much a faster
>>> processor and on a software level they are very different.
>>>
>>> So far, I have been running all of our ePMP APs on 20mhz channels and
>>> PTP links on 40mhz or 20mhz, depending on how much capacity they need. I
>>> haven't really seen much need to go down to 10mhz channels with ePMP.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Shayne Lebrun <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I seem to recall that with the M series, at least, a 30 mhz channel
>>> works 'better' than a 40 because the 40 is really two 20 mhz channels
>>> bonded together, where a 30 mhz channel is a 30 mhz channel.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 8:32 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz
>>>
>>> I'm not that familiar with the ePMP's yet but I can tell you some things
>>> that we saw with Ubiquiti.  One is that channel width does not scale with
>>> bandwidth that that Atheros chipset.  For example, 40MHz channels rarely
>>> hit their theoretical maximum due to a variety of factors, noise, lower
>>> s/n, processor limitations, etc...  Second, 20MHz channels seem to be the
>>> sweet spot but even with GPS sync, you have to deal with reflections.
>>> Third, 10MHz channels have more overhead as a percentage of total capacity
>>> and don't handle a lot of users well (above 40 for example with the older
>>> 400MHz chipsets. I'm starting to deploy XW radios with the 520MHz
>>> processors but everything is 20MHz now so I don't have a comparison).  We
>>> did see peaks of 32Mbps with some customers on 10MHz channels but that's
>>> non-peak times.  In peak times, we were seeing 8Mbps when more users were
>>> online.
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Craig House
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 5:20 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz
>>>
>>> We have deployed 6 towers to begin our new EPMP network and 4 of those
>>> towers have a full cluster of 2.4 90 degree EPMP sectors.  They are
>>> configured with ACS turned off now because in several cases they all ended
>>> up on the same or very close to the same channel.  I have Front back
>>> designations and non overlapping channels set up on all towers.  I have
>>> tried 40 mhz 20 mhz and now 10mhz channels and while the customer stability
>>> has gotten better the more I play with settings I have kind of hit a point
>>> I dont know what else to try.  I have some that the uplink quality will
>>> vary wildly from 100% to 0%.  Most have gotten better since I went to a
>>> 10mhz channel.  Most of the customers get 12MB -30mb down in the wireless
>>> link test but the uplinks are as bad as .17.   What is the cause of this
>>> poor uplink quality?  Is it interfernece?  My one 5ghz AP does not have
>>> this problem but even with noise many of these customers have -50 signals
>>> and oddly enough the ones with the great signals seem to be the ones that
>>> have the poorest link tests on the up link side.  I also have customes with
>>> -65 or -72 signals that get 5MB up on the same sectors?  Im scratching my
>>> head a bit on what the fix is for this?  Should I leave ACS on and change
>>> everything to 10mhz channels?  Will a full cluster with ACS on work all on
>>> the same channel?
>>> I'm used to FSK where you pick your channel and any channels that are
>>> adjacent will cause problems with connected SM's.  So am I just applying
>>> old knowledge to a technology that it doesn't apply to?
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

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