That's probably because of RF problems.  Radio or environment.  Not the ETH
port.

Josh Luthman
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On Jun 8, 2015 11:49 AM, "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't know.  I have had one M5 link that definitely performed better on
> 40MHz over 30MHz, but that link has been upgraded to licensed now.  I just
> regurgitate the BS that they feed me on the forums.
>
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> That doesn't make much sense since the wlan and eth ports are bridged.
>> The cpu isn't involved unless you're routing/NATing the two interfaces.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I think he is talking about using 40MHz channels on the older M series,
>>> that didn't have gig ports.  It was my understanding that the processor
>>> would get taxed as well on a 40MHz channel, making 30MHz actually work
>>> better.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ubnt and epmp have gig ports.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> On Jun 8, 2015 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't know how epmp does it.
>>>>>
>>>>> For UBNT, a 30mhz channel is just a "fat" 20mhz channel in the atheros
>>>>> chip. Single operation. For  a 40mhz channel, it's really two 20s, meaning
>>>>> radio operations are ran twice. Loss in efficiency, also marred by the 
>>>>> lack
>>>>> of gigabit port.
>>>>> On Jun 8, 2015 7:13 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never seeing much difference in performance on the ubnt M series
>>>>> between 30mhz and 40mhz channels, so yes, I would say that is true... but
>>>>> I'm not sure how much applies to ePMP - they do have a much a faster
>>>>> processor and on a software level they are very different.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far, I have been running all of our ePMP APs on 20mhz channels and
>>>>> PTP links on 40mhz or 20mhz, depending on how much capacity they need. I
>>>>> haven't really seen much need to go down to 10mhz channels with ePMP.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Shayne Lebrun <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I seem to recall that with the M series, at least, a 30 mhz channel
>>>>> works 'better' than a 40 because the 40 is really two 20 mhz channels
>>>>> bonded together, where a 30 mhz channel is a 30 mhz channel.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 8:32 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not that familiar with the ePMP's yet but I can tell you some
>>>>> things that we saw with Ubiquiti.  One is that channel width does not 
>>>>> scale
>>>>> with bandwidth that that Atheros chipset.  For example, 40MHz channels
>>>>> rarely hit their theoretical maximum due to a variety of factors, noise,
>>>>> lower s/n, processor limitations, etc...  Second, 20MHz channels seem to 
>>>>> be
>>>>> the sweet spot but even with GPS sync, you have to deal with reflections.
>>>>> Third, 10MHz channels have more overhead as a percentage of total capacity
>>>>> and don't handle a lot of users well (above 40 for example with the older
>>>>> 400MHz chipsets. I'm starting to deploy XW radios with the 520MHz
>>>>> processors but everything is 20MHz now so I don't have a comparison).  We
>>>>> did see peaks of 32Mbps with some customers on 10MHz channels but that's
>>>>> non-peak times.  In peak times, we were seeing 8Mbps when more users were
>>>>> online.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Craig House
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 5:20 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz
>>>>>
>>>>> We have deployed 6 towers to begin our new EPMP network and 4 of those
>>>>> towers have a full cluster of 2.4 90 degree EPMP sectors.  They are
>>>>> configured with ACS turned off now because in several cases they all ended
>>>>> up on the same or very close to the same channel.  I have Front back
>>>>> designations and non overlapping channels set up on all towers.  I have
>>>>> tried 40 mhz 20 mhz and now 10mhz channels and while the customer 
>>>>> stability
>>>>> has gotten better the more I play with settings I have kind of hit a point
>>>>> I dont know what else to try.  I have some that the uplink quality will
>>>>> vary wildly from 100% to 0%.  Most have gotten better since I went to a
>>>>> 10mhz channel.  Most of the customers get 12MB -30mb down in the wireless
>>>>> link test but the uplinks are as bad as .17.   What is the cause of this
>>>>> poor uplink quality?  Is it interfernece?  My one 5ghz AP does not have
>>>>> this problem but even with noise many of these customers have -50 signals
>>>>> and oddly enough the ones with the great signals seem to be the ones that
>>>>> have the poorest link tests on the up link side.  I also have customes 
>>>>> with
>>>>> -65 or -72 signals that get 5MB up on the same sectors?  Im scratching my
>>>>> head a bit on what the fix is for this?  Should I leave ACS on and change
>>>>> everything to 10mhz channels?  Will a full cluster with ACS on work all on
>>>>> the same channel?
>>>>> I'm used to FSK where you pick your channel and any channels that are
>>>>> adjacent will cause problems with connected SM's.  So am I just applying
>>>>> old knowledge to a technology that it doesn't apply to?
>>>>>
>>>>> Craig
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
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