I don't know.  I have had one M5 link that definitely performed better on
40MHz over 30MHz, but that link has been upgraded to licensed now.  I just
regurgitate the BS that they feed me on the forums.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> That doesn't make much sense since the wlan and eth ports are bridged.
> The cpu isn't involved unless you're routing/NATing the two interfaces.
>
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> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think he is talking about using 40MHz channels on the older M series,
>> that didn't have gig ports.  It was my understanding that the processor
>> would get taxed as well on a 40MHz channel, making 30MHz actually work
>> better.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Ubnt and epmp have gig ports.
>>>
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>>> On Jun 8, 2015 11:20 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know how epmp does it.
>>>>
>>>> For UBNT, a 30mhz channel is just a "fat" 20mhz channel in the atheros
>>>> chip. Single operation. For  a 40mhz channel, it's really two 20s, meaning
>>>> radio operations are ran twice. Loss in efficiency, also marred by the lack
>>>> of gigabit port.
>>>> On Jun 8, 2015 7:13 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've never seeing much difference in performance on the ubnt M series
>>>> between 30mhz and 40mhz channels, so yes, I would say that is true... but
>>>> I'm not sure how much applies to ePMP - they do have a much a faster
>>>> processor and on a software level they are very different.
>>>>
>>>> So far, I have been running all of our ePMP APs on 20mhz channels and
>>>> PTP links on 40mhz or 20mhz, depending on how much capacity they need. I
>>>> haven't really seen much need to go down to 10mhz channels with ePMP.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Shayne Lebrun <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I seem to recall that with the M series, at least, a 30 mhz channel
>>>> works 'better' than a 40 because the 40 is really two 20 mhz channels
>>>> bonded together, where a 30 mhz channel is a 30 mhz channel.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 8:32 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz
>>>>
>>>> I'm not that familiar with the ePMP's yet but I can tell you some
>>>> things that we saw with Ubiquiti.  One is that channel width does not scale
>>>> with bandwidth that that Atheros chipset.  For example, 40MHz channels
>>>> rarely hit their theoretical maximum due to a variety of factors, noise,
>>>> lower s/n, processor limitations, etc...  Second, 20MHz channels seem to be
>>>> the sweet spot but even with GPS sync, you have to deal with reflections.
>>>> Third, 10MHz channels have more overhead as a percentage of total capacity
>>>> and don't handle a lot of users well (above 40 for example with the older
>>>> 400MHz chipsets. I'm starting to deploy XW radios with the 520MHz
>>>> processors but everything is 20MHz now so I don't have a comparison).  We
>>>> did see peaks of 32Mbps with some customers on 10MHz channels but that's
>>>> non-peak times.  In peak times, we were seeing 8Mbps when more users were
>>>> online.
>>>>
>>>> Rory
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Craig House
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 5:20 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP 10 mhz vs 20mhz
>>>>
>>>> We have deployed 6 towers to begin our new EPMP network and 4 of those
>>>> towers have a full cluster of 2.4 90 degree EPMP sectors.  They are
>>>> configured with ACS turned off now because in several cases they all ended
>>>> up on the same or very close to the same channel.  I have Front back
>>>> designations and non overlapping channels set up on all towers.  I have
>>>> tried 40 mhz 20 mhz and now 10mhz channels and while the customer stability
>>>> has gotten better the more I play with settings I have kind of hit a point
>>>> I dont know what else to try.  I have some that the uplink quality will
>>>> vary wildly from 100% to 0%.  Most have gotten better since I went to a
>>>> 10mhz channel.  Most of the customers get 12MB -30mb down in the wireless
>>>> link test but the uplinks are as bad as .17.   What is the cause of this
>>>> poor uplink quality?  Is it interfernece?  My one 5ghz AP does not have
>>>> this problem but even with noise many of these customers have -50 signals
>>>> and oddly enough the ones with the great signals seem to be the ones that
>>>> have the poorest link tests on the up link side.  I also have customes with
>>>> -65 or -72 signals that get 5MB up on the same sectors?  Im scratching my
>>>> head a bit on what the fix is for this?  Should I leave ACS on and change
>>>> everything to 10mhz channels?  Will a full cluster with ACS on work all on
>>>> the same channel?
>>>> I'm used to FSK where you pick your channel and any channels that are
>>>> adjacent will cause problems with connected SM's.  So am I just applying
>>>> old knowledge to a technology that it doesn't apply to?
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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