That seems pretty good. Is this stuff a shared Gigabit? Per head?
How much is that per customer side and per ‘customer’ on the head end side? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why? Well, we're importing direct from China currently. It's cheap. For example, we bought a demo kit, OLT, 16 of each ONT, Power Supplies, etc...<$5k. Each port is 1:64 capable, and has 8 ports. Essentially we'll probably only do 1:32. Gives us around 200 subs per unit. I think that breaks it down to less than $15. ONTs are <$60. The engineering design of PON makes construction cheap. We are using a 12 ct drop ($.19/ft) to serve 100 units. Essentially, we'll do a 1x8 PLC with 4 feeders. The 4 feeders repeat this design. Essentially, you can serve 160 units that way. I can reuse the infrastructure over and over and over easily. PLC's are super duper cheap. I pay less than $25 landed cost to me from China, regardless of 1x2-1x32. My biggest cost is construction and machine maintenance. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Roger Timmerman <timmer...@gmail.com<mailto:timmer...@gmail.com>> wrote: What are you guys seeing on your cost-per-customer for GPON OLT electronics? Based on 1:16 or 1:32 split? What about the ONT cost? For simple Ethernet aggregation of fiber, I've been looking at a cost of about $42/port for fiber aggregation (Huawei S5700-52X-LI-48CS-AC), with another $40 per bidi transceiver (1/2 of a dual bidi CSFP). Then on the ONT side I have seen ~$40 for a dumb media converter with built-in bidi to $100 for a full featured indoor ONT with 4 GigE ports and 2 POTS. I haven't priced out GPON solutions in a while, but last I checked, it ended up costing a lot more than this. Granted, I understand the OSP benefits of GPON, but just want to look at an electronics comparison. Roger On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com<mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>> wrote: I'm working on a new one right now (ZTE), but I will say we have had issues with Dasan. I would love to talk to someone who has deployed ZTE. We're also evaluating Alphion. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:08 PM, KevinR <gol...@genevaonline.com<mailto:gol...@genevaonline.com>> wrote: Chuck, Can you tell us what vendors are working for you? I know you have said you have tried a few. On Jun 23, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com<mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>> wrote: The more PON we do, the more I like it. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: PON to the desktop would only have active gear in the NOC and in the device. Everything between is passive. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> ________________________________ From: "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com<mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:16:36 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why? But Why? I understand Long haul PON for FTTH, to conserve miles and miles of trunk fiber, but why in a building? Instead of having a single device (a switch) you now have active hardware all over the building to manage and maintain (And power). On 6/23/2015 10:08 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: PON looks to be where people are going for fiber to the desktop. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> ________________________________ From: "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com><mailto:n...@blastcomm.com> To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com><mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:49:14 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why? We just had a new public library built here in town. The entire LAN infrastructure is built on PON using the Tellabs ONT's. http://www01.tellabs.com/products/tellabs1100ont.shtml I've briefly looked around their site, and read some case studies, but Why would you choose PON infrastructure in a single building? From what I can tell, you still have to run CAT 5 to the ONT for power, and the 4 port units (which I saw several around the library) have a wall-wort and a power switch. I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the concept, other than someone make a slick presentation, and someone else got a nice payoff. I wouldn't be surprised of the Latter, every single 120v outlet in the building is a 20A duplex receptacle with USB Ports (~$30 each)
