If you put in poles in the ROW, they are there for anyone else to use as well I assume? If you were putting it down for long stretches like this, rural, where homesare 1/4 mile to 3 miles apart, would you put a hndhole in in front just in case? half the homes are 1/8 to 1/4 mile up a lane so it would still have a cost down the road to pick them up
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, you can put in poles. > No, I don’t put handholes anywhere I don’t need to. That normally means > splice cases. If you can see a place where you may want to branch off in > the future, yes put in a handhole and some slack. > > No, farmers do not do JULIE. So you hit their irrigation lines or their > water or sewer, you fix it. > > If you ruin a farmer’s crop, normally you pay for that too. I don’t think > ROWs give you surface rights. You can still farm the land. And whoever is > under you has to compensate you for losses. > > Costs depend on installation technology. Plowed, assuming you own the > plow, you can be in the $2/foot range. > Bored you will be in the $20/foot range. > Rock will be more. > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:47 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country > > If there are no poles, does ROW give privilege to put them in? I assume > that would get costly. > > Im probably wrong here, but I dont like poles of the wood kind, our drunks > in our rural areas are masters at taking out more than one per DUI, we have > champion drunks here. And I dee them snapped alot in the winter time. > > I wouldnt consider anything direct buried. > > > Would you put handholes in at intersections where you would be making a > turn? > > Do farmers do JULIE (thats our locating program in this area) before they > tile? I assume not since they take ROW to farm, a little each year (we had > a project go through a couple years ago where a farmer has a few miles of > corn about 10 feet wide dug out for being in the ROW, I loved it, cheating > tax subsidized prick) > > > On average, for plowed or trenched duct, permitting costs aside, what is > the cost per mile to run fiber (duct and fiber I assume are the only > infrastructure costs exclusing the treminations and hardware on each end) > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> How do Comcast and Centurylink get that privilege then? >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:20 AM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country >> >> >> >> Nope >> >> >> >> *From:* Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]> >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:11 AM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country >> >> >> >> Also, does this mean we can get on the city/plat developers list and put >> conduit in open trench and see/approve developer ROW plans? >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *Chuck McCown >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:06 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country >> >> >> >> Ye’all have rights for ROWs now. Was in the latest report and order from >> the FCC. If you are a BIAS provider (which you all are) you are considered >> a “public utility” for the purpose of obtain ROW access. >> >> >> >> *From:* Adam Moffett <[email protected]> >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:19 AM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country >> >> >> >> The original rule of thumb was something to do with what size stick you >> can use to beat your wife/kids without breaking the law. 144 strand loose >> tube is about the size of a thumb, so in some jurisdictions you might have >> been able to discipline your family with it. Say hi to your thumb for me. >> >> Aerial is cheaper if you have pole attachment rights. You don't need >> pole attachment rights (or any special rights) to bury in a ROW, but you >> can point at it when some guvmint goon questions you. It looks kind of >> official. >> >> On 6/30/2015 12:04 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: >> >> Say you want to run fiber for 10 miles. >> >> Aside from the boring equipment and permits what does that entail? >> >> >> >> I know there are 36 bazillion answers, but humor me. >> >> >> >> Details like how often you need handholes and how to deal with slacking >> for cut fiber splicing would be very helpful. >> >> >> >> What is a rule of thumb in your long term planning on how often you can >> expect a fiber cut. (an example of rule of thumb is I expect a storm >> related issue at least once every three years at every site, there is no >> actual science, or math, I just look at my thumb and it provides me sage >> answers) >> >> >> >> -- >> >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> >> >> > > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your > team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
