They have what is called Right of Way access.  If you are a registered utility 
in most states you can get this.  This varies from state to state on what has 
to happen to do this.  

Justin

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> On Jun 30, 2015, at 1:30 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:
> 
> How do Comcast and Centurylink get that privilege then?
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On 
> Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:20 AM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
>  
> Nope
>  
> From: Sterling Jacobson <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:11 AM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
>  
> Also, does this mean we can get on the city/plat developers list and put 
> conduit in open trench and see/approve developer ROW plans?
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On 
> Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:06 AM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
>  
> Ye’all have rights for ROWs now.  Was in the latest report and order from the 
> FCC.  If you are a BIAS provider (which you all are) you are considered a 
> “public utility” for the purpose of obtain ROW access.  
>  
> From: Adam Moffett <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:19 AM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country
>  
> The original rule of thumb was something to do with what size stick you can 
> use to beat your wife/kids without breaking the law.  144 strand loose tube 
> is about the size of a thumb, so in some jurisdictions you might have been 
> able to discipline your family with it.  Say hi to your thumb for me.
> 
> Aerial is cheaper if you have pole attachment rights.  You don't need pole 
> attachment rights (or any special rights) to bury in a ROW, but you can point 
> at it when some guvmint goon questions you.  It looks kind of official.
> 
> On 6/30/2015 12:04 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
> Say you want to run fiber for 10 miles.
> Aside from the boring equipment and permits what does that entail?
>  
> I know there are 36 bazillion answers, but humor me.
>  
> Details like how often you need handholes and how to deal with slacking for 
> cut fiber splicing would be very helpful.
>  
> What is a rule of thumb in your long term planning on how often you can 
> expect a fiber cut. (an example of rule of thumb is I expect a storm related 
> issue at least once every three years at every site, there is no actual 
> science, or math, I just look at my thumb and it provides me sage answers)
>  
> -- 
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>  

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