I’ve done that and they city says NO.

As a small time developer myself, I guess it’s private land until the plat 
records (and the ROW with it).

Some developers around here have very large ego’s and would still rather I go 
in a month or two later and rip it all up or bore the hell out of it again, 
than let me put conduit in their open utility trench in the first place.

It’s really baffling and frustrating.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country

They walk into the planning department and ask to be put on the list.

ryan

On 6/30/15 10:30 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
How do Comcast and Centurylink get that privilege then?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country

Nope

From: Sterling Jacobson<mailto:sterl...@avative.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country

Also, does this mean we can get on the city/plat developers list and put 
conduit in open trench and see/approve developer ROW plans?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country

Ye’all have rights for ROWs now.  Was in the latest report and order from the 
FCC.  If you are a BIAS provider (which you all are) you are considered a 
“public utility” for the purpose of obtain ROW access.

From: Adam Moffett<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber in the country

The original rule of thumb was something to do with what size stick you can use 
to beat your wife/kids without breaking the law.  144 strand loose tube is 
about the size of a thumb, so in some jurisdictions you might have been able to 
discipline your family with it.  Say hi to your thumb for me.

Aerial is cheaper if you have pole attachment rights.  You don't need pole 
attachment rights (or any special rights) to bury in a ROW, but you can point 
at it when some guvmint goon questions you.  It looks kind of official.
On 6/30/2015 12:04 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
Say you want to run fiber for 10 miles.
Aside from the boring equipment and permits what does that entail?

I know there are 36 bazillion answers, but humor me.

Details like how often you need handholes and how to deal with slacking for cut 
fiber splicing would be very helpful.

What is a rule of thumb in your long term planning on how often you can expect 
a fiber cut. (an example of rule of thumb is I expect a storm related issue at 
least once every three years at every site, there is no actual science, or 
math, I just look at my thumb and it provides me sage answers)

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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





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