What is the appeal of using ePTP vs. a Mikrotik (or UBNT) AC product with a lot more BW in the same channel size?
Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig House Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 6:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? EPTP ________________________________ From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 4:53:35 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? Tdd ptp or eptp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 8, 2015 5:37 PM, "Craig House" <cr...@totalhighspeed.net<mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net>> wrote: I have a pair of unsynced 5Ghz on Force dishes that I put up in April. They run pretty much flawlessly. They are 4 miles apart and push around 80mb each way in a 20mhz channel. No complaints. Other than the crappy design of the dish which I would have tossed off the tower when I was installing it if I had an alternative. Craig ________________________________ From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> To: "af" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 3:50:51 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? +1 about. So I assume we'll see about half the current latency with 2.5 msec? I can live with that for most links. On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: Thanks for the confirmation. And on a Saturday!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Dan Sullivan <daniel.sulli...@cambiumnetworks.com<mailto:daniel.sulli...@cambiumnetworks.com>> wrote: 2.5 msec frame allows for sync and improves PTP latency as compared to 5 msec frame. ePTP cannot be synced as communication is driven based on dynamic data from each link. Dan Sullivan ePMP Software Manager From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 10:11 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? Yep, I'm pretty sure it doesn't use fixed frames in ePTP mode... trying to sync that sounds like it'd end up like airmax sync. 2.5ms frames make sync a lot more useful for ptp though. On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: But that depends on frame timing which would leave you at the current tdd ptp (5ms today, 2.5ms after 2.5). I'd love to see the 2ms latency be synced but I don't see how that would be doable. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 8, 2015 7:54 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: No, I mean exactly what I said ePTP sync. There's no reason that I'm aware of that the ePTP up\down cycles couldn't be synced. The regular sync has to deal with potentially dozens of clients. The ePTP just has to deal with one. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ________________________________ From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 6:48:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? Eptp sync doesn't sound possible. That's what the tdd ptp is for. Do you mean the 2.5ms timing? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 8, 2015 7:47 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: Though* Early in the morning... ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ________________________________ From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 6:45:55 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? Is it, thought? ;-) FWIW, I have some ePTP up (eagerly awaiting ePTP sync!) and no issues that I'm aware of. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ________________________________ From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 4:41:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? How long has it been up? According to Cambium I'm the only one that's been experiencing a bug and it's all over the place. They've got a fix for it but it's just so weird that I'm the only one with the problem =/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote: Yep, I just replaced a pair of NanoBridges with Force 110's doing ePTP a couple days ago and we have at least one other. On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: Anyone at all? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373