Probably a 600.00 hammer On Aug 24, 2015 7:17 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> Loved this line: “In 2013, a Proton rocket was lost because a worker > installed a sensor upside down — and hammered it in to fit. “ > > *From:* Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:24 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback > > Remember something like 8 years ago when the FCC retroactively required > DFS in U-NII-2 and some manufacturers just dropped support of that band > instead of getting DFS? (Cough, cough, Trango) I wonder if the whole > industry is abandoning DFS. I see that tri-band AC routers now come set by > default to use U-NII-1 and U-NII-3, and why not, given the higher xmt power > and no DFS. I know that I’m reluctant to use DFS bands outdoors unless > it’s the middle of nowhere, because even a couple false DFS events per > month will now cause customer complaints. > > Probably it’s just part of Ubiquiti seems to have lost their mojo. > Reminds me of this article on the once great Russian space program: > > http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russias-geriatric-space-program-creaking-n413607 > > But Optimus Prime is not dead, just damaged, and Mark Wahlberg will > rebuild him ... oops, wrong movie. > > > *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> > *Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:49 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback > > IIRC, no new UBNT products have DFS certification. Some of the newer ones > (Maybe all?) have 5150 certification. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > Midwest Internet Exchange > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Cc: *"Principal WISPA Member List" <w...@wispa.org>, memb...@wispa.org > *Sent: *Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:39:33 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback > > Hi Darin, > > Comparing Ubnt AC to EPMP ... it is not a fair, apples to apples > comparison.. one is a 802.11ac based and the other is 802.11n based system. > > in regards to certs... actually, both are now certified for all of the > bands... EPMP is available for use today, Ubnt AC products, awaiting a new > firmware to unlock the channels. > > ><I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared to UBNT > If you are feq. constrained, the re-use of freq with EPMP will be highly > desired. > If you are not freq. constrained then ability to do higher bandwidth with > the AC products will be appealing. > > >>>how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish gets > misaligned > For all systems, irrespective of who makes them... the key factor is > Signal to Noise Ratio... if that is decent stuff will work well, if not > then they all come down to their knees.... How much and how > quickly....would be very difficult to describe....(kind of like asking > someone what does a rose smell like ?) > > >>>Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be interested in > hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better than UBNT. > On any GPS based system, you will have a higher ping time....(latency) > EPMP's have a very decent QOS mechanism, and voip works well . > Ubnt works pretty decent too. > However as a general rule.... non gps based systems are more susceptible > to interference... but then keep in mind that is a relative statement, > depending on the strength of the interfering signal, even the gps based > units will come down to their knees. > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com, "memb...@wispa.org" <memb...@wispa.org>, "Principal > WISPA Member List" <w...@wispa.org> > *Sent: *Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:52:40 PM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cambium ePMP Feedback > > Hello guys, > > Have any of you used Ubiquiti M-Series and also used ePMP now to compare > the differences in your network? We're building out some new sites and > comparing Ubiquiti AC gear to ePMP and really would like to hear some more > recent feedback on the ePMP platform since it always seems like it isn't > talked about much on the list or in the forums. > > I know ePMP is fully certified for all bands while Ubiquiti is still only > certified and running in the upper bands, except for beta which now has > UNII-1 as well. I'm most interested in how ePMP scales on towers compared > to UBNT and how it handles a low signal client better than UBNT when a dish > gets misaligned. Consistent jitter and ping is also something I'd be > interested in hearing about to see how it handles VOIP and gaming better > than UBNT. > > Any feedback would be great. Thanks > > > > -- > Darin Steffl > Minnesota WiFi > www.mnwifi.com > 507-634-WiFi > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> > > >
