AirRouters are good.  Just most people want to go pick one up in the store, 
even tech savvy folks. I had an IT guy ask me a few weeks ago what I would 
recommend.  Knowing he was a desktop support guy i recommended an AirtRouter 
because of ease of configuration.  He needed up going with an Apple Airport 
because he could walk into Best Buy and get it.  Low and behold it did not have 
the range and now he’s fighting it.

Justin Wilson
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> On Oct 7, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
> 
> AirRouters seem to be OK.  Is that consumer enough for you?
> 
> Dlink generally treats customers well, at least better than other brands 
> (though around the country everyone has their own good/bad brands).
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
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> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net 
> <mailto:gwl...@cngwireless.net>> wrote:
> Just to be clear, thanks for confirming what I already thought, they all 
> suck... lol
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Glen Waldrop <mailto:gwl...@cngwireless.net>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 12:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers?
> 
> Thanks for the input guys.
> 
> I was mostly looking at what to recommend. I'd rather help on occasion, but 
> my responsibility ends at the CAT5 coming out of the POE.
> 
> I've been bouncing around the idea of a $5 a month managed RB951 2HnD or 
> something.
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Justin Wilson - MTIN <mailto:li...@mtin.net>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 11:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers?
> 
> My take on this is you have to look at what supporting a customer router 
> costs you in support and service calls.  We have several clients who are 
> doing one of a couple things.
> 
> Some are selling a managed router service for $X a month.  This is typically 
> a Mikrotik the ISP has access to.  The ISP sets up the wireless, manages the 
> router, and other such functions.   This allows for a reference point on the 
> customer side for testing, etc.  
> 
> The other way to approach this is if you don’t want mess with router 
> configuration some folks are including a “modem” that is essentially a hAP or 
> 750.  This is just in bridge mode or is the PPPOE client.  The customer then 
> is free to plug in their own router if they so desire, but you still have a 
> reference point from the customer side.  If you need a customer to bypass 
> their router you simply ask them to plug into port5 or whatever on your 
> “modem”. That port can be setup to do DHCP or whatever.
> 
> You have to look at how much support consumer routers is costing you.  Many 
> folks look at the cost of the routers and the cost to install them or replace 
> them.  But if it cuts your support calls by 30% that might mean the 
> difference between hiring another person, or other “soft” costs.
> 
> 
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net <mailto:j...@mtin.net>
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>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net 
>> <mailto:gwl...@cngwireless.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are there any consumer routers that don't suck these days?
>> 
>> I used to recommend Linksys/Cisco, but since the Belkin buyout quality seems 
>> to be going down. They jink with teh firewall and I can't block specific 
>> outgoing traffic, can't remote admin anymore, etc...
> 
> 

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